We currently pay $50/month for a Clear 4g modem that we fail over to. 

It gets swallowed up really fast, and I might argue that no internet is worse 
than internet that barely works.  

We actually have more issues with upstream latency than actual download/upload 
speeds. The end effect for our members is "the internet is slow or 
intermittent", but for the most part our pfsense configuration has addressed 
most of it and helps us address additional issues as they happen.  

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On Jan 14, 2013, at 5:21 PM, Mojo <cr...@mojocoworking.com> wrote:

> This is a very timely post - as our area of the city experienced a 
> system-wide outage for about 15 minutes the other day with Charter.  We have 
> a Charter Business service with 50Mbps ... and no usage cap.  We have a 
> wireless router on each floor to complement the 24 ethernet ports distributed 
> throughout the space.    I agree with Alex - at coworking space should NEVER 
> be without easy/uncomplicated connection to awesome quality Internet service. 
>  
> 
> So, after the outage the other day, we're looking at a back up.  Some members 
> suggested that we look at a 4G connection just to activate during emergency 
> outages.  We also have another really great local ISP here called Skyrunner.  
> Does anyone have a true "back up" system in place?  If so, I'd love to hear 
> more.
> 
> I also would like to explore further the idea of throttling bandwidth hogs.  
> I don't think we have many ... but is there a way to see which connections 
> are using the most?
> 
> On password changes ... we only changed passwords once in the past 2 years.  
> We moved locations and it was like starting new again.  We felt like it made 
> sense to have a new passwork  ;-)
> 
> Cheers,
> Craig
>   
> 
> On Monday, January 14, 2013 11:28:05 AM UTC-5, Alex Hillman wrote:
> +1 to everything Jerome said. 
> 
> There's plenty of pain within a network of people who are SUPPOSED to be able 
> to get on the network. You don't also want to make it hard for people to 
> connect in the first place. 
> 
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> On Jan 14, 2013, at 11:22 AM, Jerome Chang <jer...@blankspaces.com> wrote:
> 
>> We haven't changed our password in 2+ years either, however...our issues are 
>> everything after that initial authentication.  One of the biggest problems 
>> we have is someone's hogging our bandwidth. Drop a 500mb movie file in 
>> Dropbox midday and then, it's like rush hour heading into the Lincoln 
>> Tunnel. So we have to throttle each user, etc.
>> 
>> OR, one side of the office somehow has way more devices on it so we need the 
>> other AP's to help balance the load.
>> 
>> OR, one Internet feed drops so the 2nd/back-up needs to kick in immediately, 
>> and likely with different throttling settings since it has less bandwidth.
>> 
>> OR there are too many other AP's nearby and their channels or whatever cause 
>> enough interference.
>> 
>> Etc
>> 
>> Jerome (not from an EvilBerry)
>> www.BLANKSPACES.com
>> 
>> On Jan 14, 2013, at 8:07 AM, Tom Brandt <twbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> We've changed ours once in three years, and it is a pain both to inform the 
>>> members and for members with older machines to change it.
>>> 
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>>> Sent from my aye phone
>>> 
>>> On Jan 14, 2013, at 11:01 AM, Alex Hillman <dangerous...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> We've changed ours twice in 6 years. The inconvenience of constantly 
>>>> changing passwords is a killer for the members. 
>>>> 
>>>> Is there a particular thing that you're concerned about that has you 
>>>> wanting to change the password daily?
>>>> 
>>>> -Alex
>>>> 
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>>>> On Jan 14, 2013, at 10:35 AM, Melissa Saubers <msau...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Do you change them on a daily basis?
>>>>> Or do you use a similar system that a hotel would use where the user has 
>>>>> to sign in each day and it's good for 24 hours (not sure what it's 
>>>>> called)?
>>>>> Or something else?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks!
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