Always a delight reading your posts Alex!

I'd be very interested to know what's the general view about cases when the 
government goes even further and sets up a government funded, and possibly 
run, coworking space. We find many places where the subsidies are so high 
that it becomes impossible or very difficult for other spaces to grow 
around them, even when they may be building different communities, price is 
always a big factor for many people. What's the experience in your area? Do 
you think the fact the community is not directly contributing financially 
somehow affects how members perceive being part of that group? What about 
the decision making? In some cases, being funded externally means the 
direction and shaping of the community is no longer in the hands of that 
group of people, do you find this being the case? 

Cheers

On Thursday, February 13, 2014 4:48:53 PM UTC, Alex Hillman wrote:
>
> So channeling a bit of JFK, my answer to the state level support (and even 
> city level support) is "Ask not what your state can do for you, but what 
> you can do for your state."
>
> Here's the thing: cities and states are used to being the provider of 
> incentives and support. Coworking allows for a fundamentally different 
> model where the members of a community that the coworking space serves are 
> the *direct* supporters, rather than funneling things up to the 
> city/state and then back down again.
>
> It's true - governments love coworking because it helps them with so many 
> of their goals. It's hard NOT to recognize the value that coworking can 
> bring in the realm of economic development, cultural and creative 
> inspiration, innovation, and more. 
>
> The thing is that as soon as they get involved, everything slows down. 
> That slow down is by design, mind you. It's their JOB to make things happen 
> slowly, making time to consider a far wider constituency than a single 
> community. I consider that a good thing in general for societies, but not a 
> good thing for the entrepreneur that they aim to support. It's a bit like 
> tying yourself to a boat anchor but pretending it's a rocket ship. 
>
> Gov't institutions usually won't admit it in public, but behind closed 
> doors nearly every one that I've spoken to agrees that *we* don't need 
> *them*.
>
> But that doesn't mean that *they* don't need *us.*
>
> They can learn a lot from us. Collaboration isn't something that gov'ts do 
> well, and it's something we do EXCEEDINGLY well. Same thing with 
> innovation, marketing, community building...you get the picture.
>
> There's another interesting effect that I've seen: governments are USED to 
> people coming to them asking for things. When you start to have a 
> reputation as someone who doesn't ask for things, it becomes really easy to 
> talk to government people (because they're not immediately on the defense) 
> and it's even easier to stand out from the crowd. 
>
> Even something as simple as getting a city official to vocally support 
> something can make other things easier. We've been able to accelerate 
> permits for projects and other annoying bureaucratic things because we 
> didn't ask for things when we didn't need it, and instead focused on 
> building relationships with people who work in government and helping *them 
> -* our public servants - *do their job.*
>
> It's a fundamentally different approach than people are used to, but it's 
> an approach that I think hits on all 5 of the coworking core values, too. 
>
> -Alex
>
>
>
>
>
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> /ah
> indyhall.org
> coworking in philadelphia
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 7:50 PM, lars hasselblad torres 
> <lhto...@gmail.com<javascript:>
> > wrote:
>
>> Hello hello!
>>
>> We've got great pow up here in the northeast as we watch the festivities 
>> in Sochi - feeling pretty good to be the home of snowboarding and 
>> slopestyle talent right now! Hope all my fellow coworking colleagues are 
>> having a good time with the Olympics too.
>>
>> So, again, want to state my thanks for all the help folks here provided 
>> on the development of the coworking guide we put out last year - we've 
>> really seen a spike in interest, with plenty of opportunities to offer 
>> insight and support since the report, "Coworking in Vermont: A Starter 
>> Guide" went up (http://local64.com/coworking).
>>
>> And with this success, we have state interest: the Vermont legislature 
>> would really like to do something to help coworking spaces get up and 
>> running. They recognize the value coworking spaces can bring to our 
>> historic downtowns on many levels.
>>
>> And I have to confess: I don't entirely know what to tell them. My story 
>> is about bootstrapping, and how the biggest incentive I found would be the 
>> ability to write down ALL my startup expenses for furniture and equipment 
>> year one instead of amortization. BUT since that's not going to happen...
>>
>> Any ideas on state supports or incentives for coworking that could flow 
>> to the entrepreneur, not the landlord or developer (sometimes they are the 
>> same but it seems rare. And there are other state tax credits for historic 
>> buildings, etc). Fishing for ideas and best practices.
>>
>> Thank you. Peace -
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