Hi everyone, Adam/Melissa - could you also please add me to the slack group?
Cheers, Marion www.entrelac.fr Le jeudi 23 octobre 2014 21:52:35 UTC+2, Adam Teterus a écrit : > > Gotcha, Ramon! > ᐧ > > On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 11:13 PM, Ramon Suarez <ra...@betacowork.com > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> Melissa, can you please add me to the slack group? >> >> Ramon Suarez >> Serendipity Accelerator >> http://www.betacowork.com >> Phone: +3227376769 >> Mobile: +32497556284 >> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/ramonsuarez >> New book: http://coworkinghandbook.com >> >> On Sep 10, 2014 6:09 PM, "Melissa Geissinger" <mel...@beawimp.org >> <javascript:>> wrote: >> >>> Chad - I'll send over an invite then! I'm making everybody an admin so >>> we can all send invites. >>> >>> *Melissa Geissinger* >>> President & COO | WIMP LLC <http://www.beawimp.org> >>> WIMPspace: Cowork * Colearn * Coexist <http://www.wimpspace.com> >>> p 707 827 1334 x1 >>> c 707 888 0225 >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, September 10, 2014 9:02:33 AM UTC-7, creativespace wrote: >>>> >>>> we love Slack. <3 >>>> >>>> Chad Ballantyne >>>> 705.812.0689 >>>> ch...@thecreativespace.ca >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Barrie's Coworking Community >>>> Perfect for small businesses, startups and entrepreneurs. >>>> 12 Dunlop St E, Barrie Ontario, L4M 1A3 >>>> Memberships start at $25/mth >>>> www.thecreativespace.ca >>>> 705-812-0689 >>>> >>>> On Sep 10, 2014, at 11:54 AM, Adam Teterus <ad...@indyhall.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> Turns out Slack multi-team options just got a lot better, too. A new >>>> beta build is out right now that let's you swap between teams much faster, >>>> and with full notifications for all teams in one window. Download it >>>> here <https://rink.hockeyapp.net/apps/06bd6493684f65a3b8f47aca92c9006e> >>>> if you want to join in for the Coworking Leadership Slack that Melissa >>>> started! >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, September 9, 2014 1:05:41 PM UTC-4, Melissa Geissinger >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> It's actually really easy to swap between teams I've found. It's even >>>>> easy on the mobile app! Send me your email and we can experiment. >>>>> >>>>> And hell yes to Google Hangouts. Let's do it! Pick a time. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Melissa Geissinger* >>>>> President & COO | WIMP LLC <http://www.beawimp.org/> >>>>> WIMPspace: Cowork * Colearn * Coexist <http://www.wimpspace.com/> >>>>> p 707 827 1334 x1 >>>>> c 707 888 0225 >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, September 9, 2014 10:01:10 AM UTC-7, Adam Teterus wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hey, Melissa! Congrats on opening the clubhouse! it's especially >>>>>> refreshing to read that you've been so cohesive for such a long time >>>>>> prior >>>>>> to moving into a space. That's really fantastic, and I'm thrilled for >>>>>> you. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm absolutely sure that we could talk and learn lots from one >>>>>> another, and I'd love to do that. We use Slack here at Indy Hall, in >>>>>> fact. >>>>>> My understanding of Slack is that it's a little difficult to swap >>>>>> between >>>>>> teams right now (Indy Hall log-in v. Coworking Group log-in), though I >>>>>> may >>>>>> be building that up into something more difficult than it really is. >>>>>> I'll >>>>>> hop inside and we can pick-up from here. >>>>>> >>>>>> I was also thinking that it'd be phenomenal to have a Google Hangout >>>>>> at the end of every week, some forum for connecting with other tummlers >>>>>> and >>>>>> managers and leaders in real time. Realistically, we have an astounding >>>>>> amount of potential tools and platforms, we just have to execute and >>>>>> meet >>>>>> up! >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, September 9, 2014 12:17:34 PM UTC-4, Melissa Geissinger >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Adam and everyone! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We just opened up our coworking space last week, so I'm wearing all >>>>>>> the hats for now. Honestly, I can't imagine it any other way for the >>>>>>> time >>>>>>> being. I love getting to know every single person in the community and >>>>>>> making sure I do my best to serve them and meet their needs and >>>>>>> expectations. Even though we just opened our space, we've had a >>>>>>> throwing >>>>>>> and thriving community for nearly 3 and a half years already. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I run the group with 3 other individuals, and we've been using a >>>>>>> chat service called Slack for a few months now. We used to have our >>>>>>> regular >>>>>>> conversations in Facebook but that just got messy and disorganized. Now >>>>>>> we >>>>>>> just opened up a "team" for the greater group and it's been awesome. >>>>>>> Other >>>>>>> companies around us are even starting to adopt the platform for >>>>>>> inter-company communication. What if we created a Slack team for >>>>>>> Coworking >>>>>>> Space management - we can create different channels (basically chat >>>>>>> rooms) >>>>>>> for all kinds of topics and that can be where we go when we need >>>>>>> real-time >>>>>>> answers or real-time like-minded company to keep. What do you think? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's an invite-only service and it's free. Check it out at >>>>>>> https://slack.com/. I can start up a team if you guys are >>>>>>> interested? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Melissa Geissinger* >>>>>>> President & COO | WIMP LLC <http://www.beawimp.org/> >>>>>>> WIMPspace: Cowork * Colearn * Coexist <http://www.wimpspace.com/> >>>>>>> p 707 827 1334 x1 >>>>>>> c 707 888 0225 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 9, 2014 8:46:12 AM UTC-7, Adam Teterus wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, Will! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> how to engender that sense of commitment and passion to go above >>>>>>>>> and beyond the formal job requirements and to want to be involved in >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> Google Group (as an example of going above and beyond the strict job >>>>>>>>> definition more generally), given that the external motivators >>>>>>>>> (income >>>>>>>>> potential, career development) are not overwhelming? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This. Exactly this. I think you hit the nail on the head, and to >>>>>>>> your point, there very much is a critical practice of learning to >>>>>>>> *make >>>>>>>> your employees care as much as you do*. Makes total sense, too, >>>>>>>> because that's precisely what we ought to be doing for our members: >>>>>>>> making >>>>>>>> them care for this community as strongly as possible, as though they >>>>>>>> themselves own it. In many ways, your members do own it. In just as >>>>>>>> many >>>>>>>> ways, the space manager does own it - *I* own it, and I do my best >>>>>>>> job possible when I feel that way. I just don't have my name on any >>>>>>>> legal >>>>>>>> documents. :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have to ask, and this goes to every coworking space owner: if you >>>>>>>> have a hired gun running the place or helping you run the place, do >>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>> explicitly invite that person to participate on the Google Group? What >>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>> you offer your hire in terms of training or job help? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 9, 2014 5:57:16 AM UTC-4, Will Bennis, Locus >>>>>>>> Workspace wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Adam, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Great post and great question! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As a space owner and space manager, I could certainly learn as >>>>>>>>> much or more from space managers as from space owners. And I would >>>>>>>>> hope >>>>>>>>> that the space managers would find a happy home in this Google Group, >>>>>>>>> sharing their own knowledge and requesting help/insight from others. >>>>>>>>> We'd >>>>>>>>> all certainly gain a lot, just as we'd gain a lot if there were more >>>>>>>>> coworking space members on this list. Which I suppose begs the >>>>>>>>> question, >>>>>>>>> "Where are all the coworking space members?" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I guess one answer--the less interesting answer--is that most >>>>>>>>> space owners are or once were space managers. Margins are low for >>>>>>>>> most >>>>>>>>> coworking spaces and many of us run one-person or few-person >>>>>>>>> operations. So >>>>>>>>> we managers are here, but we may use the "owner" tag since that sort >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> trumps the "manager" tag on our business cards :). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But of course most coworking spaces also have non-owner employees >>>>>>>>> &/or managers, so why aren't they more active on this list? Here's a >>>>>>>>> potential answer, and in this case it's the same answer as why there >>>>>>>>> aren't >>>>>>>>> more coworking-space members on this list. It's also an answer I'm a >>>>>>>>> little >>>>>>>>> ashamed to give, because it speaks to how far my own coworking space >>>>>>>>> needs >>>>>>>>> to grow as a *community* and not just as a business providing shared >>>>>>>>> office >>>>>>>>> space and events: most non-owner space-managers, as with most >>>>>>>>> members, are >>>>>>>>> not passionately involved in the world of coworking and in learning >>>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>>> and contributing to that world. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The material incentives/external motivation (large potential >>>>>>>>> salaries, career advancement up a high ladder) are not there except >>>>>>>>> in the >>>>>>>>> very rare cases of some of the most successful coworking spaces that >>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>> really attract people ready to do their very best at the job for the >>>>>>>>> financial benefits, and the internal motivations that have to do with >>>>>>>>> love >>>>>>>>> of the job, commitment to the community and doing one's best are just >>>>>>>>> rare, >>>>>>>>> I think, for often part-time, low-paid work. I would guess non-profit >>>>>>>>> coworking spaces and for-profit coworking spaces that do an >>>>>>>>> incredible job >>>>>>>>> developing a strong sense of commitment to the space and its >>>>>>>>> community can >>>>>>>>> find space managers ready to give the job their all without the >>>>>>>>> external >>>>>>>>> motivators (the money or career trajectory), but I think that's a >>>>>>>>> rare >>>>>>>>> achievement. I think once that's achieved, those are the places also >>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>> you find space *members* and not just managers getting involved, >>>>>>>>> posting >>>>>>>>> answers and questions to this list, trying to build the movement more >>>>>>>>> generally. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So the challenge for me, who runs a for-profit coworking >>>>>>>>> space--but does it in large part because he's passionate about the >>>>>>>>> importance of coworking spaces as a kind of human/social capital for >>>>>>>>> freelancers & independent workers--is how to engender that sense of >>>>>>>>> commitment and passion to go above and beyond the formal job >>>>>>>>> requirements >>>>>>>>> and to want to be involved in the Google Group (as an example of >>>>>>>>> going >>>>>>>>> above and beyond the strict job definition more generally), given >>>>>>>>> that the >>>>>>>>> external motivators (income potential, career development) are not >>>>>>>>> overwhelming? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'd guess this is a challenge for many of us (space owners) and >>>>>>>>> the main reason you don't see more non-owner space managers actively >>>>>>>>> involved here. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Will >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ---- >>>>>>>>> Will Bennis >>>>>>>>> http://en.locusworkspace.cz <http://www.locusworkspace.cz/> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sunday, September 7, 2014 3:47:49 AM UTC+2, Adam Teterus wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hey, all. I'm Adam. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So I've been running Indy Hall as the Point Man for just shy of 3 >>>>>>>>>> years, looking over this place and these people on a daily basis >>>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>> January of 2011 to right now (and well beyond right now, I should >>>>>>>>>> hope). 3 >>>>>>>>>> years of facilitating relationships between new and old members, >>>>>>>>>> introducing newcomers to our community, saying goodbye to >>>>>>>>>> longstanding >>>>>>>>>> members who came before me, bumping into very *human* obstacles >>>>>>>>>> and guiding members through sometimes tough social situations, >>>>>>>>>> always >>>>>>>>>> toward a place in which we're much tighter and stronger and better >>>>>>>>>> than >>>>>>>>>> where we came from. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I recently had a really great conversation with a friend about >>>>>>>>>> what it is that I do here at Indy Hall. Given that coworking is >>>>>>>>>> relatively >>>>>>>>>> "new" in the scheme of things, and given that it's a burgeoning >>>>>>>>>> meta-community and industry in its own rite, she asked me who I turn >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> when I have questions, when I encounter something new. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> That's a long, winding answer. My reference points are ALL OVER >>>>>>>>>> the place, there's not really anyone one, particular role model. Not >>>>>>>>>> really >>>>>>>>>> a coworking space manager that I look to for parallels or direct >>>>>>>>>> reference. >>>>>>>>>> Many of you on this forum are among reference points, but there's a >>>>>>>>>> contingent missing from the Google Group: the person that most >>>>>>>>>> closely reflects me and what I do here at Indy Hall. I know that >>>>>>>>>> person and >>>>>>>>>> those people exist, but...where are they? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My friend, she's a researcher type, and she points out that I've >>>>>>>>>> got this wealth of domain knowledge >>>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_knowledge>, this set of >>>>>>>>>> skills and attributes that I reflexively understand and act on every >>>>>>>>>> day to >>>>>>>>>> keep this community up and running. Things that I often take for >>>>>>>>>> granted, >>>>>>>>>> admittedly. Things I rarely think about because I'm not talking >>>>>>>>>> about them >>>>>>>>>> out loud with other people who do it, too. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> She goes on to say that it sounds like I'm lacking a field >>>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discipline_(academia)>, a network >>>>>>>>>> of people who share the same domain knowledge. A group of people >>>>>>>>>> like me. Where are those people? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I know the Google Group is primarily for/frequented by owners >>>>>>>>>> and prospective space owners, but where do the space managers go to >>>>>>>>>> talk to >>>>>>>>>> one another? The daily, boots on the ground, hired to be here >>>>>>>>>> community leader - where does she go for answers? Where do they go >>>>>>>>>> to learn >>>>>>>>>> and talk and share? Hell, where do they go to debrief and unwind >>>>>>>>>> after a >>>>>>>>>> long week of weird social situations? Who teaches them how to do >>>>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>>>> they're doing? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Further, for owners and prospective owners: when you're hiring >>>>>>>>>> for a coworking space manager, who are you looking toward and >>>>>>>>>> thinking, >>>>>>>>>> "yeah, I need *that* person"? When you do hire someone, who do >>>>>>>>>> you refer that person to in terms of a role model for the gig? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Where are the people like me? Who are they? I want to meet 'em. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Coworking" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to coworking+...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>> Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>> Google Groups "Coworking" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/coworking/TKWCKxHlHE0/unsubscribe. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>> coworking+...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- >> Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >> Google Groups "Coworking" group. >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/coworking/TKWCKxHlHE0/unsubscribe. >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> coworking+...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > > -- > Adam J. 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