---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 21:56:08 -0400 From: William Allen Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Starium (was Re: article: german secure phone) Peter Gutmann wrote: > > "Perry E. Metzger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >I was unaware that Starium has ever released a product to be compatible with, > >and a quick glance at their web site fails to reveal products for sale. Am I > >mistaken on this? I would very much like to buy their products if they > >existed... > > They went belly-up some time ago, I don't know who owns the IP rights. > I thought they were going to release the details and do a public standard? Where are the details? Is there any interest in putting together a little research group? Here's what I think the basic requirements would be: - must work as bump in the cord for any analog phone line, and talk peer to peer with any similarly configured analog phone line. - must talk with any similarly configured digital phone line. -- correllary, should work with OffTheSelf V.34 modem chips. We already know how to do this with ISDN NAPs. No real need for V.92. -- correllary, will also work with phone talking to computer. - must use diffie-hellman generated shared secrets. - must use either/both pre-configured secret and/or public-key for identification phase to prevent MonkeyInTheMiddle. - price point under $100. + a big plus would be to figure out how to use with currently deployed IP phones. I'll note that Cisco phones load their firmware using TFTP, which I think is pretty insecure, so upgrades shouldn't be a problem, and might very well lead to a much better product.... --------------------------------------------------------------------- The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe cryptography" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ____________________________________________________________________ "...where annual election ends, tyranny begins;" Thomas Jefferson & Samuel Adams The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------