Am Mittwoch, 11. November 2009 22:35:28 schrieb Doug Schepers: > Hi, Christoph- > > Christoph Schäfer wrote (on 11/10/09 11:39 PM): > > Just thinking aloud as a preparation or future discussions with the > > colour company: Does anyone think that a model like ODF/OASIS would be > > the right framework for an open colour standard? It would allow for > > input from everyone: software projects/companies, commercial printers, > > ink vendors and whoever may be interested. > > > > Also, so far we are only talking about an open colour standard for CMYK > > printing. There are other areas that need to be covered as well, like > > spot colours, perhaps a new set of web colours (w3c?), colours for > > RGB/PDF/X-3+ print workflows, colours for Office software (OASIS?), > > Hexa-/Septa-/Octachrome etc., and some of these definitely need > > vendor/manufacturer participation. > > > > Anyway, these were just some thoughts, and having an industry partner to > > discuss the first steps is definitely a good start. > > Without trying to be too W3C-centric... what about bringing this to W3C? > > Setting up a new standards body just for this may involve more overhead > than you realize, and may not have the reach or credibility you want to > make an impact on industry. W3C already has the infrastructure in place > for public participation and Royalty-Free license obligations, many > members with print interests, and the neutrality and visibility to > promote such an effort. > > We also have a spec in progress that deals with color management [1][2], > which would seem to be a good match. It would also be good to have a > treatment of some of these color issues in CSS, SVG, and XSL-FO specs. > > Disclosure: I'm the W3C Team Contact for the SVG and WebApps working > groups. I'm also a new member of OASIS, as a participant in the ODF TC > and liaison to the SVG WG, in an attempt to make SVG a first-class > citizen of ODF. > > I'd be happy to bring this up with the ODF TC to get more feedback, > though right now they are focused on finishing ODF 1.2... future work > will start in earnest next year, I think. I'm not the right person to > advocate for this, but I can help coordinate efforts (it would be one of > the few times in my life that I'd be color-coordinated ^_^ ). > > If you're interested in talking more about these possibilities before > LGM, get in touch with me (or Chris or Liam) offlist. > > > [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/SVGColor12/ > [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/SVGColorPrimer12/ >
Thank you very much for your input, Doug. I absolutely agree that yet another consortium is unnecessary and probably even counterproductive. The question, though, is which is the right forum? To gain traction within the industry, it would have credibility with the industry _and_ the community. While the W3C has credibility with the community, I would guess that many in the printing business lose their interest when they read "world wide web," no matter what the scope of the W3C's work is. There are other organisations that may have a familiar ring for these companies, like the International Color Consortium or CIE, but these may not be interested or, like ICC, are only "open" if you pay horrendous fees. We also must not forget that there are some heavyweights, which might feel threatened by a truly open colour standard. To be perfectly clear: I do not have a preference, yet, and I think this should be discussed at LGM, with input from various sides, FLOSS projects, printers, ink/paint vendors etc. Christoph _______________________________________________ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
