Dear Martin and Franco, here it is perhaps relevant that we (Tymon de Haas and me, working on the fieldwalking extension to CRMarchaeo) have decided that surface finds should be regarded as objects contained in a stratigraphical unit (typically, the unit 'plough layer'), hence not 'on' the surface of that unit. I cannot think of any truly 2D surface features, what would be an example of them? A soil mark feature on an airphoto perhaps? But there would be an inferred 3D feature causing that....
Martijn On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 3:18 PM, martin <mar...@ics.forth.gr> wrote: > Dear Franco, > > proposals welcome! One way to define it is the overlapping spatial extent. > This comes in conflict with 2D surface features, except if we regard them > not being infinitesimally thin. Another way is to define it by atoms. This > comes again in conflict with 2D features, except if we regard surface > molecules to carry the feature. If we regard pure form, we come in conflict > with liquids in solid bodies, metabolism products etc. What about the > content of a box, water in the sponge? The box "contains" but it is not > part of it. I'd exclude that sense. > > Best, > > martin > > On 9/20/2017 3:42 PM, Franco Niccolucci wrote: > >> it looks very useful, but: >> >> “O25 contains (is contained in) >> [...] an instance of S10 Material Substantial was or is contained for >> some time in [...]” >> >> Of course: 'X is contained in Y' means that X is contained in Y :-) >> >> Was the scope note proposed by M. de la Palisse? >> >> Apart from that, it’s a great idea. >> >> Franco >> >> Prof. Franco Niccolucci >> Director, VAST-LAB >> PIN - U. of Florence >> Scientific Coordinator >> ARIADNE - PARTHENOS >> >> Piazza Ciardi 25 >> 59100 Prato, Italy >> >> >> Il giorno 20 set 2017, alle ore 11:38, martin <mar...@ics.forth.gr> ha >>> scritto: >>> >>> Dear All, >>> >>> >>> >>> I propose the following property for CRMSci: >>> >>> O25 contains (is contained in) >>> >>> Domain: S10 Material Substantial >>> >>> Range: S10 Material Substantial >>> >>> Superproperty of:E18 Physical Thing. P46 is composed of (forms part of): >>> E18 Physical Thing >>> >>> Quantification: many to many (0,n:0,n) >>> >>> Scope note: This property describes that an instance of S10 >>> Material Substantial was or is contained for some time in another instance >>> of S10 Material Substantial regardless if the identity of the involved >>> instances is based on the persistence of the form of material or on >>> material substance changing form. >>> >>> In First Order Logic: >>> >>> O25(x,y) ⊃ E18(x) >>> >>> O25(x,y) ⊃ E18(y) >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Dr. Martin Doerr | Vox:+30(2810)391625 | >>> Research Director | Fax:+30(2810)391638 | >>> | Email: >>> mar...@ics.forth.gr >>> | >>> | >>> Center for Cultural Informatics | >>> Information Systems Laboratory | >>> Institute of Computer Science | >>> Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) | >>> | >>> N.Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton, | >>> GR70013 Heraklion,Crete,Greece | >>> | >>> Web-site: >>> http://www.ics.forth.gr/isl >>> | >>> -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Crm-sig mailing list >>> Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr >>> http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig >>> >> >> > -- > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Dr. Martin Doerr | Vox:+30(2810)391625 | > Research Director | Fax:+30(2810)391638 | > | Email: mar...@ics.forth.gr | > | > Center for Cultural Informatics | > Information Systems Laboratory | > Institute of Computer Science | > Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) | > | > N.Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton, | > GR70013 Heraklion,Crete,Greece | > | > Web-site: http://www.ics.forth.gr/isl | > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Crm-sig mailing list > Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr > http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig > -- Dr. Martijn van Leusen Chair, Examination Board for Arts, Culture and Archaeology Chair, Faculty of Arts Advisory Board for Data Management policies Associate professor, Landscape Archaeology Groningen Institute of Archaeology / Poststraat 6, 9712ER Groningen (Netherlands) phone +31 50 3636717 Academia page <https://rug.academia.edu/MartijnvanLeusen>
