On 9/20/2017 4:51 PM, van Leusen, P.M. wrote:
Dear Martin and Franco,
here it is perhaps relevant that we (Tymon de Haas and me, working on
the fieldwalking extension to CRMarchaeo) have decided that surface
finds should be regarded as objects contained in a stratigraphical
unit (typically, the unit 'plough layer'), hence not 'on' the surface
of that unit.
I cannot think of any truly 2D surface features, what would be an
example of them? A soil mark feature on an airphoto perhaps? But there
would be an inferred 3D feature causing that....
Yes, agreed. If we regard 2D features, such as the face of a statue, as
being thin but still extended in 3D, we can define O25 containment
systematically by included matter.
Martin
Martijn
On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 3:18 PM, martin <mar...@ics.forth.gr
<mailto:mar...@ics.forth.gr>> wrote:
Dear Franco,
proposals welcome! One way to define it is the overlapping spatial
extent. This comes in conflict with 2D surface features, except if
we regard them not being infinitesimally thin. Another way is to
define it by atoms. This comes again in conflict with 2D features,
except if we regard surface molecules to carry the feature. If we
regard pure form, we come in conflict with liquids in solid
bodies, metabolism products etc. What about the content of a box,
water in the sponge? The box "contains" but it is not part of it.
I'd exclude that sense.
Best,
martin
On 9/20/2017 3:42 PM, Franco Niccolucci wrote:
it looks very useful, but:
“O25 contains (is contained in)
[...] an instance of S10 Material Substantial was or is
contained for some time in [...]”
Of course: 'X is contained in Y' means that X is contained in
Y :-)
Was the scope note proposed by M. de la Palisse?
Apart from that, it’s a great idea.
Franco
Prof. Franco Niccolucci
Director, VAST-LAB
PIN - U. of Florence
Scientific Coordinator
ARIADNE - PARTHENOS
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59100 Prato, Italy
Il giorno 20 set 2017, alle ore 11:38, martin
<mar...@ics.forth.gr <mailto:mar...@ics.forth.gr>> ha scritto:
Dear All,
I propose the following property for CRMSci:
O25 contains (is contained in)
Domain: S10 Material Substantial
Range: S10 Material Substantial
Superproperty of:E18 Physical Thing. P46 is composed of
(forms part of): E18 Physical Thing
Quantification: many to many (0,n:0,n)
Scope note: This property describes that an
instance of S10 Material Substantial was or is contained
for some time in another instance of S10 Material
Substantial regardless if the identity of the involved
instances is based on the persistence of the form of
material or on material substance changing form.
In First Order Logic:
O25(x,y) ⊃ E18(x)
O25(x,y) ⊃ E18(y)
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