Dear all, This subject is typical of the politically correct attitude of our times and most people (including me) generally avoid getting involved in such discussions - especially on social media where you would immediately get drowned in a flood of insults - and the result is that we have a feeling of consensus on the matter.
Now, we as a community might have a different point of view, starting with the knowledge we have of the origin of the word "man" (please consult the wikipedia page ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_(word) ) for a brief introduction). Can we please avoid this kind of discussions and leave it to Twitter and Facebook ? Et pax in Terra hominibus bonae volontatis... (any woman feeling excluded here ?) Have a nice day, Pierre On Fri, Apr 12th, 2019 at 11:2 AM, Athanasios Velios <a.vel...@arts.ac.uk> wrote: > > > > I support the change of the English labels to: > > E22 Made Object > E25 Made Feature > E71 Made Thing > > And I think this can be proposed as an issue to be voted through the SIG > list. > > All the best, > > Thanasis > > > On 12/04/2019 05:38, Robert Sanderson wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > On behalf of the Linked Art consortium, I would like to propose that the > > > labels for E22 Man-Made Object, E25 Man-Made Feature and E71 Man-Made > > Thing be changed to drop the unnecessarily gendered “Man-“. In this day > > and age, I think we should recognize that inclusion and diversity are > > core features of community acceptance, and that including gender-biased > > language is alienating. > > > > Thus the proposal is: E22’s label should be changed to Made Object, E25 > > changed to Made Feature and E71 changed to Made Thing. > > > > The “human” nature of the agent that does the making is explicit in the > > ontology, in that only humans or groups there-of can be Actors and carry > > > out Productions or Creations, so there is no ambiguity about non-humans > > making these. > > > > This issue was discussed at length, and has been open in our profile’s > > tracker for 12 months now. We would greatly prefer that it be solved by > > changing the labels in the documentation, and thereby in the RDFS, > > rather than other RDF specific approaches such as minting new terms and > > using owl:sameAs to assert equality, or rebranding only in the JSON-LD > > serialization but persisting in other serializations. The change is > > consistent, reduces the length of the class names, and is an easy > > substitution. The comprehensibility of the label is still the same. > > Given the renaming of Collection to Curated Holding, migration of > > existing data has the same solution - just substitute the labels. > > > > As a second choice, if the above is not acceptable, we propose to > > instead replace “Man-“ with “Human-“ … only two additional characters, > > but a bit more of a mouthful. > > > > Many thanks for your engagement with this issue! > > > > Rob > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Crm-sig mailing list > > Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr > > http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig > > > This email and any attachments are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended > recipient of this email and/or its attachments you must not take any > action based upon them and you must not copy or show them to anyone. > Please send the email back to us and immediately and permanently delete it > and its attachments. Where this email is unrelated to the business of > University of the Arts London or of any of its group companies the > opinions expressed in it are the opinions of the sender and do not > necessarily constitute those of University of the Arts London (or the > relevant group company). Where the sender's signature indicates that the > email is sent on behalf of UAL Short Courses Limited the following also > applies: UAL Short Courses Limited is a company registered in England and > Wales under company number 02361261. Registered Office: University of the > Arts London, 272 High Holborn, London WC1V 7EY > > _______________________________________________ > Crm-sig mailing list > Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr > http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig > > > >
