Yep, this looks right. Sorry I missed it. And it was right next door.
T.
On 11/10/2019 20:49, Martin Doerr wrote:
Oops,
The case described by Thanassis should be documented with P126. Isn't it??
P126 employed (was employed in)
Domain: E11 <#_E11_Modification> Modification
Range: E57 <#_E57_Material> Material
Quantification: many to many (0,n:0,n)
Scope note: This property identifies E57 Material employed in an E11
Modification.
The E57 Material used during the E11 Modification does not necessarily
become incorporated into the E24 Physical Man-Made Thing that forms the
subject of the E11 Modification.
Examples:
§ the repairing of the Queen Mary (E11) employed Steel (E57)
§ distilled water (E57) was employed in the restoration of the Sistine
Chapel (E11)
In First Order Logic:
P126(x,y) ⊃ E11(x)
P126(x,y) ⊃ E57(y)
On 10/11/2019 10:22 PM, Martin Doerr wrote:
Dear All,
I support the broadening to materials in general. It always implies a
certain portion of the respective material has been employed or
applied, even it was never document as an object out of this context.
I do not support "used: blue light". I would document that as
technique, not as object used. There is no need for a new property or
scope note to do that.
Best,
Martin
On 10/11/2019 1:33 AM, Robert Sanderson wrote:
Given that it’s not a change to the domain or range, only to the
scope of the sorts of things that the range can then be applied to,
it seems easiest and well justified to change the scope note to allow
further types.
Is there scope for other physical (non-solid, non-liquid) phenomena
to be included as well? The multispectral photograph’s production
used_object_of_type <blue light> ?
Rob
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Athanasios Velios <thana...@softicon.co.uk>
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*Date: *Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 3:07 PM
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*Subject: *[Crm-sig] Broaden scope of P125
Hello,
Conservators use a range of materials for their treatments. The
treatments can be modelled as "E7 Activity" and the "P125 used object of
type" describes things used during the activity. The scope note only
refers to objects (i.e. solid human-made things). It would be useful if
the scope of this property could be broader to also include non-solid
things such as fluids (e.g. the use of a type of solvent for cleaning).
Unless this can be described in another way I suggest to change the
scope note of P125 from:
This property defines the kind of objects used in an E7 Activity, when
the specific instance is either unknown or not of interest, such as use
of "a hammer".
to:
This property defines the kind of physical things (solid and non-solid)
used in an E7 Activity, when the specific instance is either unknown or
not of interest, such as use of "a hammer" or the use of "toluene".
The alternative would be to create a new property in CRMsci to include
types of Material Substantial, but given that the range of P125 is only
E55 Type, the nature of the thing can be easily retrieved and I do not
think a new property is necessary.
Any other suggestions?
All the best,
Thanasis
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