Hello Thank you, this is clear and helpful. I can distinguish the Exhibition as an Activity vs. the set of items being exhibited. The set of items being exhibited is not an E78_Collection. The set of items can be described as a Physical Man-Made Object, with sub-components, and part additions and removals.
Thanks Thomas Le dim. 8 mars 2020 à 19:04, Martin Doerr <mar...@ics.forth.gr> a écrit : > Dear All, > > May be I can make the difference more clear: > > The fundamental principle of formal ontologies is to be able to say if > something is the same thing in two different references. > > Therefore, > > (1) the identity of the exhibition set is given by what was exhibited. The > phase of collecting is its production, because the relation of the parts to > the whole are not yet well defined. > > (2) the identity of the collection is given by a concept of continuity of > growth, which has to do with its unity at any point in time and the > intentions of the curator. > > May be a term "Temporary Aggregate" would be useful (P2 has type:...). > This can pertain to many situations and processes. > > A new class, in whatever extension, could specify the exhibition activity. > > All the best, > > Martin > > On 3/7/2020 7:20 PM, Martin Doerr wrote: > > Dear Thomas, > > Just to clarify: Any fixed set of objects kept together for a particular > purpose in this combination qualifies as a kind of Physical Object, and is > not regarded "Collection" only because it is a set of things. A collection > in the sense of E78 is given when things are potentially added at any, > unlimited time following some permanent plan of the kinds of things to be > collected and are being kept at a permanent place. I'd rather avoid talking > about "collection", because the exhibition fixes the set, and then it is > over. > Also, the exhibition set of objects forms a didactic unit, matches with a > catalogue. The objects will remain members of their collections of origin. > > CRM *thinking* is in events, more than things. Creating an "Exhibition > Making" activity is rather adequate, much more than seeking exhibition > semantics indirectly in the product, and then putting in its description > until all that has happened is concentrated in it. We have part addition > and part removal events, and plans of things to be exhibited. The history > of planning can be some times much more intriguing than the actual set that > could be brought together. But I do not want to interfere with the > discussion George mentions. > > All the best, > > Martin > > On 3/6/2020 1:47 PM, George Bruseker wrote: > > You might want to hop over to the Linked.Art forum and check out what is > going on. It is the major focus of modelling right now (using CRM). It is > not finalized but you can at least follow the live discussions and make > your own decisions. > > Best, > George > > > On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 1:36 PM Thomas Francart <thomas.franc...@sparna.fr> > wrote: > >> Hello >> >> Has anyone already described Exhibitions using the CIDOC-CRM ? I have a >> use-case where we thought it could make sense to publish/disseminate data >> about exhibitions, mostly to state the list of objects in the museum that >> "participated in" the exhibition. >> Can the group of items that participated in an exhibition be considered >> as a E78_Collection, curated by some curator ? >> Which would be the main entities of the model that participate in this >> use-case to state that an item participated in an exhibition ? >> >> Cheers >> Thomas >> >> >> -- >> >> *Thomas Francart* -* SPARNA* >> Web de *données* | Architecture de l'*information* | Accès aux >> *connaissances* >> blog : blog.sparna.fr, site : sparna.fr, linkedin : >> fr.linkedin.com/in/thomasfrancart >> tel : +33 (0)6.71.11.25.97, skype : francartthomas >> _______________________________________________ >> Crm-sig mailing list >> Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr >> http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig >> > > _______________________________________________ > Crm-sig mailing > listCrm-sig@ics.forth.grhttp://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig > > > -- > ------------------------------------ > Dr. Martin Doerr > > Honorary Head of the > Center for Cultural Informatics > > Information Systems Laboratory > Institute of Computer Science > Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) > > N.Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton, > GR70013 Heraklion,Crete,Greece > > Vox:+30(2810)391625 > Email: mar...@ics.forth.gr > Web-site: http://www.ics.forth.gr/isl > > > _______________________________________________ > Crm-sig mailing > listCrm-sig@ics.forth.grhttp://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig > > > -- > ------------------------------------ > Dr. Martin Doerr > > Honorary Head of the > Center for Cultural Informatics > > Information Systems Laboratory > Institute of Computer Science > Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) > > N.Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton, > GR70013 Heraklion,Crete,Greece > > Vox:+30(2810)391625 > Email: mar...@ics.forth.gr > Web-site: http://www.ics.forth.gr/isl > > _______________________________________________ > Crm-sig mailing list > Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr > http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig > -- *Thomas Francart* -* SPARNA* Web de *données* | Architecture de l'*information* | Accès aux *connaissances* blog : blog.sparna.fr, site : sparna.fr, linkedin : fr.linkedin.com/in/thomasfrancart tel : +33 (0)6.71.11.25.97, skype : francartthomas
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