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On Tue, Nov 1, 2022, 10:56 George Bruseker via Crm-sig <crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> wrote:

    Dear all,

    I propose the deletion of the following properties of CRMdig. The
    reason that each should be deleted is listed beside it, but there
    are two basic, principled reasons for the proposal:

    1) the property can be modelled using a more generic pattern from
    CRMbase or CRMdig without loss of semantic valence
    2) the property violates a CIDOC CRM modelling principle / best
    practice, an alternative mode of expressing it already exists
    using standard modelling in CRM and SHOULD be employed

    Therefore, if our proposal is done correctly removing all these
    properties will serve to a) make the model lighter but just as
    semantically powerful, b) accord with CRM SIG general modelling
    principles and c) serve better as a middle level domain ontology
    for its area of scope.

    Martin Doerr, Rob Sanderson and Nicola Carboni have all
    contributed over time to this review or properties
    alongside myself as proposer. Any mistakes being mine.

    With that as background here are the proposed deletions:

    *Delete:* L4 has preferred label: inconsistent with the rest of
    CRM, redundant to other ontologies

    *Keep until D11/D9 revision is understood*: L20 has created:
    because D9 is removed (but see also D11)

    *Keep, not marginal: *L24 created logfile: creates a file of type
    ‘logfile’ (used to separate derivative output from automated
    provenance reporting.)

    *Delete:* L29 has responsible organization: unnecessary sub
    property just use p14
    *Delete:* L30 has operator: unnecessary sub property just use p14

    *Delete: *L31 has starting date-time: inconsistent modelling, use
    time span like everyone else
    *Delete: *L32: has ending date time: inconsistent modelling, use
    time span like everyone else

    *Delete:* L33: has maker: this property violates event modelling.
    If it continues to exist then E73 should have ‘has author’ (local
    project requirements...)

    *Delete:* L34 has contractor: unnecessary sub property of an
    unnecessary subproperty, use p14

    *Delete: *L35 has commissioner: unnecessary sub property, use p14

    *Delete: *L47 has comment: not ontological at all

    *Delete: *L51 has first name: inconsistent non ontological
    modelling, anathema!
    *Delete: *L52 has last name: see above
    *Delete: *L53 is not uniquely identified by: this is not a way to
    encode a negation and does not say anything (see also neg
    properties question)
    *Delete: *L55 has inventory number: this is not ontological,
    please use standard modelling
    *Delete: *L56 has pixel width: no standard modelling, use dimension
    *Delete: *L57 has pixel height: non standard modelling, use dimension
    *Delete: *L59 has serial number: non standard modelling, use E42

    *Delete: *L61 was on going at: again non standard time modelling
    for convenience sake

    This is a first list to which others may be added. At this time, I
    am happy to propose the above list for deletion as hopefully
    relatively uncontroversial.

    You can find the specification for CRMdig here:
    https://cidoc-crm.org/crmdig/sites/default/files/CRMdig_v3.2.1.pdf

    To read more on these properties.

    I call a vote now, ending on Nov 11. Please vote by answering YES
    to this emaill thread if you agree to these deletions or NO. If
    you vote NO, please indicate if you vote NO to all or if you vote
    NO to some part of the proposal.

    Thanks in advance for your interest and participation.

    Best,

    George
    Vice Chair CRM SIG


-- George Bruseker, PhD
    Chief Executive Officer
    Takin.solutions Ltd.
    https://www.takin.solutions/
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