Dear all,

The deadline for voting on this issue has passed. There were 5 votes in
total. 5 votes were to approve the change. 0 votes were against. Therefore,
it would appear the change passes.

This will be reported to the CRM SIG in the session on the CRMdig which
will be held next week in Luxembourg.

Sincerely,

George

On Sun, Nov 6, 2022 at 4:53 PM Martin Doerr via Crm-sig <
crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> wrote:

> YES
>
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2022, 10:56 George Bruseker via Crm-sig <
> crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I propose the deletion of the following properties of CRMdig. The reason
>> that each should be deleted is listed beside it, but there are two basic,
>> principled reasons for the proposal:
>>
>> 1) the property can be modelled using a more generic pattern from CRMbase
>> or CRMdig without loss of semantic valence
>> 2) the property violates a CIDOC CRM modelling principle / best practice,
>> an alternative mode of expressing it already exists using standard
>> modelling in CRM and SHOULD be employed
>>
>> Therefore, if our proposal is done correctly removing all these
>> properties will serve to a) make the model lighter but just as semantically
>> powerful, b) accord with CRM SIG general modelling principles and c) serve
>> better as a middle level domain ontology for its area of scope.
>>
>> Martin Doerr, Rob Sanderson and Nicola Carboni have all contributed over
>> time to this review or properties alongside myself as proposer. Any
>> mistakes being mine.
>>
>> With that as background here are the proposed deletions:
>>
>> *Delete:* L4 has preferred label: inconsistent with the rest of CRM,
>> redundant to other ontologies
>>
>> *Keep until D11/D9 revision is understood*: L20 has created: because D9
>> is removed (but see also D11)
>>
>> *Keep, not marginal: *L24 created logfile: creates a file of type
>> ‘logfile’ (used to separate derivative output from automated provenance
>> reporting.)
>>
>> *Delete:* L29 has responsible organization: unnecessary sub property
>> just use p14
>> *Delete:* L30 has operator: unnecessary sub property just use p14
>>
>> *Delete: *L31 has starting date-time: inconsistent modelling, use time
>> span like everyone else
>> *Delete: *L32: has ending date time: inconsistent modelling, use time
>> span like everyone else
>>
>> *Delete:* L33: has maker: this property violates event modelling. If it
>> continues to exist then E73 should have ‘has author’ (local project
>> requirements...)
>>
>> *Delete:* L34 has contractor: unnecessary sub property of an unnecessary
>> subproperty, use p14
>>
>> *Delete: *L35 has commissioner: unnecessary sub property, use p14
>>
>> *Delete: *L47 has comment: not ontological at all
>>
>> *Delete: *L51 has first name: inconsistent non ontological modelling,
>> anathema!
>> *Delete: *L52 has last name: see above
>> *Delete: *L53 is not uniquely identified by: this is not a way to encode
>> a negation and does not say anything (see also neg properties question)
>> *Delete: *L55 has inventory number: this is not ontological, please use
>> standard modelling
>> *Delete: *L56 has pixel width: no standard modelling, use dimension
>> *Delete: *L57 has pixel height: non standard modelling, use dimension
>> *Delete: *L59 has serial number: non standard modelling, use E42
>>
>> *Delete: *L61 was on going at: again non standard time modelling for
>> convenience sake
>>
>> This is a first list to which others may be added. At this time, I am
>> happy to propose the above list for deletion as hopefully relatively
>> uncontroversial.
>>
>> You can find the specification for CRMdig here:
>> https://cidoc-crm.org/crmdig/sites/default/files/CRMdig_v3.2.1.pdf
>>
>> To read more on these properties.
>>
>> I call a vote now, ending on Nov 11. Please vote by answering YES to this
>> emaill thread if you agree to these deletions or NO. If you vote NO, please
>> indicate if you vote NO to all or if you vote NO to some part of the
>> proposal.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your interest and participation.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> George
>> Vice Chair CRM SIG
>>
>>
>> --
>> George Bruseker, PhD
>> Chief Executive Officer
>> Takin.solutions Ltd.
>> https://www.takin.solutions/
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