Dear all, we discussed CRMarchaeo and are going to make a proposel for a new version in the next CRM-SIG.
In the discussion we encountered the issue of not having yet a policy/strategy for implementing .2 properties which means properties related to properties. We have one of them in CRMarchaeo: AP13.2 justified by (is justification of) Domain: AP13 has stratigraphic relation to Range: AP11 has physical relation to Scope note: This property identifies the type of physical relation that was used to justify the type of stratigraphic relation assigned to the relation between two A5<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mKPhci0Bs0b_b4DxlhlisFgWti2Zl4nCQvQqspRQSAk/edit#heading=h.2afmg28> Stratigraphic Modification events. Physical relations of “above” or “fills” may justify the stratigraphic relation type “after”. Figure 7 gives a graphical representation and Figure 6 shows an example. I would ask to either create a new issue for the implementation of .2 properties or include the discussion in the existing issue 588 as the strategy should be the same for .1 and .2 . Whatever you think appropriate. Kind regards, Gerald From: Crm-sig <crm-sig-boun...@ics.forth.gr> on behalf of Pavlos Fafalios via Crm-sig <crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> Reply to: Pavlos Fafalios <fafal...@ics.forth.gr> Date: Thursday, 1. December 2022 at 17:46 To: crm-sig <crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> Subject: Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE 588 Implementing the .1 Properties of Base and Extensions in RDF Dear all, Please find my revised homework for issue 588<https://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-588-common-policy-method-for-implementing-the-.1-properties-of-base-and-extensions-in-rdf> below: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1b0wW70xo2wjxNlWHYDRl7nr-fzYXTchN?usp=share_link Feel free to add your comments or send your feedback! Best regards, Pavlos On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 11:23 AM Pavlos Fafalios <fafal...@ics.forth.gr<mailto:fafal...@ics.forth.gr>> wrote: Dear Mark, all, I agree, we need to make clear which constructs of the RDF are not part of CIDOC-CRM (especially since they make use of the same namespace). One way is to add a note in the beginning of the file. Another way would be to provide them through a different namespace (not sure if this is a good solution--needs some thinking). This is also a good reason for having them in a different RDF file: all classes and properties in this file, except the .1 properties, are not part of CIDOC-CRM, while the .1 properties have a 'domain' class that is also not part of CIDOC-CRM. Best, Pavlos On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 5:53 PM Mark Fichtner <m.ficht...@wiss-ki.eu<mailto:m.ficht...@wiss-ki.eu>> wrote: Dear all, nice work, thanks! I think for RDF this is a valid representation, although I am not very happy to add properties that are not in the cidoc crm directly and that are not part of the language itself (like in this case crm:P03_reifies). As a user/reader of the rdf it is simply hard to understand what is part of the cidoc crm itself and what comes due to "workarounds". Even in as a new ontology/file/addon it mixes cidoc crm and non-cidoc crm things. Also we have a reification concept (E13 Attribute Assignment), I am not sure if we need even more of these. I'm looking forward to the discussion! Best, Mark Fichtner Germanisches Nationalmuseum Am Mo., 12. Sept. 2022 um 14:22 Uhr schrieb Pavlos Fafalios via Crm-sig <crm-sig@ics.forth.gr<mailto:crm-sig@ics.forth.gr>>: Dear all, Please find my homework for issue 588<https://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-588-common-policy-method-for-implementing-the-.1-properties-of-base-and-extensions-in-rdf> in the below link (as well as in the issues' folder): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oQRkmMUgyOeDsn3ZbPuQ__VtbigS9DVsHjmOtvx16uo/edit?usp=sharing Apologies for the delay! Feel free to add your comments or send your feedback! Best regards, Pavlos -- Pavlos Fafalios Postdoctoral researcher (Marie Curie IF - Project ReKnow<https://reknow.ics.forth.gr/>) Centre for Cultural Informatics & Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science - FORTH Visiting Lecturer Department of Management Science & Technology Hellenic Mediterranean University Web: http://users.ics.forth.gr/~fafalios/ Email: fafal...@ics.forth.gr<mailto:fafal...@ics.forth.gr> Address: N. Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton, 70013 Heraklion, Greece Tel: +30-2810-391619 _______________________________________________ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr<mailto:Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Pavlos Fafalios Postdoctoral researcher (Marie Curie IF - Project ReKnow<https://reknow.ics.forth.gr/>) Centre for Cultural Informatics & Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science - FORTH Visiting Lecturer Department of Management Science & Technology Hellenic Mediterranean University Web: http://users.ics.forth.gr/~fafalios/ Email: fafal...@ics.forth.gr<mailto:fafal...@ics.forth.gr> Address: N. Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton, 70013 Heraklion, Greece Tel: +30-2810-391619 -- Pavlos Fafalios Postdoctoral researcher (Marie Curie IF - Project ReKnow<https://reknow.ics.forth.gr/>) Centre for Cultural Informatics & Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science - FORTH Visiting Lecturer Department of Management Science & Technology Hellenic Mediterranean University Web: http://users.ics.forth.gr/~fafalios/ Email: fafal...@ics.forth.gr<mailto:fafal...@ics.forth.gr> Address: N. Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton, 70013 Heraklion, Greece Tel: +30-2810-391619
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