In version 7.2.3 (if I have the correct file in front of me) we have already added the following:

"This property is a part of the fully developed path from E93 Presence through P161 has spatial projection, E53 Place, P89 falls within (contains) to E53 Place."

This is the path from E93 Presence instead of E4 Period (both being subclasses of E92 Spacetime Volume).

If it applies to both E4 and E93, should we push it a step up to E92 Spacetime Volume which actually owns P161 has spatial projection in the first place?

All the best,

Thanasis

On 02/02/2024 14:15, Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote:
Accepted!

But, it seems it should be:

"This property identifies an instance of E53 Place that falls wholly within the extent of another instance of E53 Place, where both places are defined in the same geometric system, i.e. they are at rest to each other.

It addresses spatial containment only and does not imply any relationship between things or phenomena occupying these places.

This property is also part of the fully developed path implied by P7 /took place at (witnessed), /from E4 Period through P161 has spatial projection, E53 Place, P89 falls within to E53 Place.

This property is transitive and reflexive.

in FOL:

P89(x,y) ⇒(∃u) [E18(u) ⋀P157(x,u) ⋀P157(y,u)]

Then we can simplify the FOL of P7, and add the above FOL to P121,122,189

Best,

Martin



On 2/2/2024 12:28 PM, Stephen Stead wrote:

The “However, ” implies that this is an exception to the statement “It addresses spatial containment only and does not imply any relationship between things or phenomena occupying these places.”, which it is not.

I would suggest that this is removed: so the addition reads:-

This property is also part of the fully developed path implied by P7 /took place at (witnessed), /from E4 Period through P161 has spatial projection, E53 Place, P89 falls within to E53 Place, where both places are defined in the same geometric system.

Stephen Stead

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*From:*Crm-sig <crm-sig-boun...@ics.forth.gr> *On Behalf Of *Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
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Dear all,

I suggest the following addition to the scope note of P89, in yellow:


P89 falls within (contains)

Domain:

E53 <#_toc8104> Place

Range:

E53 <#_toc8104> Place

Quantification:

many to many, necessary, dependent (1,n:0,n)

Scope note:

This property identifies an instance of E53 Place that falls wholly within the extent of another instance of E53 Place.

It addresses spatial containment only and does not imply any relationship between things or phenomena occupying these places.

However, this property is also part of the fully developed path implied by P7 /took place at (witnessed), /from E4 Period through P161 has spatial projection, E53 Place, P89 falls within to E53 Place, where both places are defined in the same geometric system.

This property is transitive and reflexive.

Examples:

The area covered by the World Heritage Site of Stonehenge (E53) /falls within/ the area of Salisbury Plain (E53). (Pryor, 2016)

In first-order logic:

P89(x,y) ⇒E53(x)

P89(x,y) ⇒E53(y)

[P89(x,y) ∧P89(y,z)] ⇒ P89(x,z)

P89(x,x)

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  Dr. Martin Doerr
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  Center for Cultural Informatics
Information Systems Laboratory
  Institute of Computer Science
  Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH)
N.Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton,
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Email:mar...@ics.forth.gr Web-site:http://www.ics.forth.gr/isl


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