It could be argued this is "none of my business" and entirely up to Markus
and the PTP project ... but ... I can't help myself ... and maybe my
comments will help set future expectations or processes.

The staging (and soon milestone) repo and the EPP packages are meant to
match exactly. EPP pulls from staging repo. Normally. If an exception is
required, Markus has some ways he can "hack" the normal process and do
something different on a case by case basis, but I'd think it'd be best to
mention what serious bug it is required to fix and justify the extra effort
and risks. And, in many cases, if it was that serious, it would probably
justify a respin of the common repo too. There is some risk in having them
different, least of all that users can get different things from different
sources ... some risk, not to mention that does not sound very
"coordinated" ... the whole point of a "simultaneous release train".  I
know, in the past, exceptions have been made that were considered "a bad
enough bug for EPP but not bad enough for common repo", but I'd think these
should be rare ... and justified in a bugzilla for all to read why it might
be justifiable in one case, but not another.

Don't get me wrong ... it might well be the best thing to do in this
case ... but a) should normally be rare, and b) should be explained and
linked to a specific bug.

Thanks for reading,






From:   Beth Tibbitts/Watson/IBM@IBMUS
To:     Cross project issues <cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org>,
Date:   12/14/2011 09:34 PM
Subject:        Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Juno M4 staging repo is done
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We have a respin of PTP in place  but too late for Juno M4 repo.
I think it should make the EPP build tomorrow though.


...Beth

Beth Tibbitts
Eclipse Parallel Tools Platform  http://eclipse.org/ptp
IBM STG - High Performance Computing Tools
Mailing Address:  IBM Corp., 745 West New Circle Road, Lexington, KY 40511

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All did go fine and I re-promoted one more aggregation build (the one from
6:33 started by Adolfo) and since there were no other requests for "respin"
or blocking problems, we'll consider this part of M4 done. Tomorrow
(Thursday) the focus will be on EPP ... and assuming that goes fine ...
we'll make both available Friday. (usually, 9 to noonish, Eastern Time).

Thanks all ... remember, test early, test often ... oh, and remember this
time our /releases/juno repo will contain _only_ M4 (rather than a
composite of last 3) since a key bundle package went "down" in version
numbering, so that means you can start testing /releases/staging and expect
same results and behavior for final M4 repo.






From: Adolfo Sanchez Barbudo <adolfo...@opencanarias.com>
To: Cross project issues <cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org>,
Date: 12/14/2011 06:33 PM
Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Status and outlook near end of
           M4 +3
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BTW,

If all goes fine, as I expect, I'd be pleased to have the new result
promoted for packaging.

Cheers,
Adolfo.
2011/12/14 Adolfo Sanchez Barbudo <adolfo...@opencanarias.com>
 David,

 I have just run a build with some last bits for OCL Tools.

 Cheers,
 Adolfo.


 2011/12/14 David M Williams <david_willi...@us.ibm.com>


  Roll call ... I think the last aggregation build got all the latest
  changes/additions for M4, but please speak up now if your contribution
  isn't there yet.

  I promoted the latest results to /releases/staging so you can check/test
  there, if all is as expected.

  If anyone needs to contribute by 7 PM Eastern, I'd think that'd be
  containable ... after that, I'd begin to ask if better to wait to M5, or
  other more specific questions.

  Oh, and you don't really need to answer "roll call" unless there's
  problems ... like my teachers used to say "if anyone is not here, will
  you
  please speak up?"  :)


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