Hi
Ah! I noticed the new download and assumed it was giving me added value,
e.g the Simrel aggrcon support and other good things I might have
overlooked such as Oomph.
Perhaps we want what I expected the new package to be in addition to the
old "Standard"/"Classic"/"Basic".
Regards
Ed Willink
On 13/10/2014 05:17, Eike Stepper wrote:
Hi,
I have noticed that the former "Eclipse Standard" package has recently
been renamed to "Eclipse IDE for Eclipse Committers". Personally I
don't like the new name because it suggests that this package contains
something in addition to the (classic) minimum which is only meant for
committers and that seems wrong. But more importantly, I think there
were two things wrong with the renaming process itself:
1) The preceeding discussion took place in
http://bugs.eclipse.org/443296 and not on this list. IIRC not even a
link to this bug was posted on this list. As a result it seems that
the decision was influenced/made by just a handful people.
2) This "renaming" wasn't just a change of the user-visible label and
sorting order but instead the fundamental IDs of the installable p2
units were changed from "eep.package.standard" to
"epp.package.committers"; to the effect that existing Eclipse Standard
installations cannot update to Mars (M2) anymore, but fail with
mysterious errors about Eclipse Compare conflicts.
Given that the Eclipse Standard package was by far the most downloaded
package by the end of Kepler and still among the 3 (or so) most
popular packages for Luna this change of the p2 ID seems extremely
disruptive for a very large group of users (must be millions) and I
wonder if that was really the intention.
If there's confusion about the good old "Eclipse Standard" package on
the download page I suggest to change its user-visible label on that
download page and possibly in the p2 metadata. But unless I miss an
important point I suggest to continue to provide package IUs with the
existing ID "epp.package.standard" and ideally even change Mars M2 to
do so.
Cheers
/Eike
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