Hi Eike,

There is some discussion on https://bugs.eclipse.org/441957 (with a link to 
https://bugs.eclipse.org/381751). The idea is to add a p2.inf late in the Mars 
cycle which will allow updating from a Juno SR? to the new package in Mars. 
I’ve opened https://bugs.eclipse.org/446983 to track the effort.

-Gunnar

Am 13.10.2014 um 06:17 schrieb Eike Stepper <step...@esc-net.de>:

> Hi,
> 
> I have noticed that the former "Eclipse Standard" package has recently been 
> renamed to "Eclipse IDE for Eclipse Committers". Personally I don't like the 
> new name because it suggests that this package contains something in addition 
> to the (classic) minimum which is only meant for committers and that seems 
> wrong. But more importantly, I think there were two things wrong with the 
> renaming process itself:
> 
> 1) The preceeding discussion took place in http://bugs.eclipse.org/443296 and 
> not on this list. IIRC not even a link to this bug was posted on this list. 
> As a result it seems that the decision was influenced/made by just a handful 
> people.
> 
> 2) This "renaming" wasn't just a change of the user-visible label and sorting 
> order but instead the fundamental IDs of the installable p2 units were 
> changed from "eep.package.standard" to "epp.package.committers"; to the 
> effect that existing Eclipse Standard installations cannot update to Mars 
> (M2) anymore, but fail with mysterious errors about Eclipse Compare conflicts.
> 
> Given that the Eclipse Standard package was by far the most downloaded 
> package by the end of Kepler and still among the 3 (or so) most popular 
> packages for Luna this change of the p2 ID seems extremely disruptive for a 
> very large group of users (must be millions) and I wonder if that was really 
> the intention.
> 
> If there's confusion about the good old "Eclipse Standard" package on the 
> download page I suggest to change its user-visible label on that download 
> page and possibly in the p2 metadata. But unless I miss an important point I 
> suggest to continue to provide package IUs with the existing ID 
> "epp.package.standard" and ideally even change Mars M2 to do so.
> 
> Cheers
> /Eike
> 
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