The DLTK project contributes a DLTK RSE feature to the release train. My
guess is that no one else on the release train depends on this DLTK RSE
feature, so it would be easy to remove it if necessary.

>From adopter's point of view, like JBoss Tools, Zend Studio also heavily
relies on RSE.
The new o.e.remote really has some advantages like the Synchronized
Project, but still misses some basic features of RSE:
  - Connecting to Windows systems (no cygwin please)
  - FTP connections
  - Remote Systems Explorer view, which allows browsing and editing files
without creating a project on a remote system, but also on the local file
system using the Local connection.

However, I suppose that Zend Studio, JBoss Tools and any other adopter can
continue using RSE outside of the release train, while the project remains
under the Eclipse Foundation.

BTW, something interesting I noticed is that IBM has already a fork of the
RSE project. In the IBM Rational products the RSE plugins exist with the
same org.eclipse.rse.* IDs, but with version 4.4.x. RSE under the Eclipse
Foundation is still with version 3.7.2. This already causes a nasty
fragmentation of RSE in the community. Any plugin that depends on the EF
RSE most likely cannot be installed on IBM Rational due to dependency
conflicts.

So, I have a suggestion. If the TM project has no interest in maintaining
RSE in future, how about moving RSE to a new "orphan" project outside of
the TM project, so those adopter who still rely on RSE can continue
maintaining and improving it until they are ready to switch to the new
alternative?

Kaloyan


On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Max Rydahl Andersen <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I know we are not on the release train but JBoss tools continues to use
> RSE.
>
> Afaik there are still no replacement for the functionality it provides
> with respect to UI for connecting to ssh and ftp based systems.
>
> If there are I would love to hear about them.
>
> Thus my interest is still to keep it in.
>
> If help is needed for including it let me know.
>
> /max
> http://about.me/maxandersen
>
>
> > On 11 Dec 2015, at 19:13, Greg Watson <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Are there any projects that have a dependency on Remote System Explorer
> (RSE) in Neon? The TM project must decide if RSE will be included in the
> Neon release. Currently there is only interest in including TM Terminal.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Greg
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