Hi Ed,

Can't all these projects coordinate and make the necessary contributions within 
a short time frame without leaving master broken for a long time?


It's already M1 +2 date and the rest of the projects should be able to do their 
contributions.


Kaloyan

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Hi


Feel free, but we have a policy problem.


The earlier discussion was on Xtext dependencies.


The build is currently failing because OCL depends on UML2 which is missing.


Once UML2 is fixed, OCL and/or UML2 will fail because EMF and/or Xtext is 
missing.


We therefore have three choices.


Green all the way: No contribution is enabled till ALL prerequisites are 
enabled. This will be very slow because of the recursive dependencies, because 
relengs are not super-responsive, because it is August, because some projects 
never contribute at M1, and because M1 used to be two rather than one weeks 
long.


Red till green: contribute as normal, so that the validator identifies the 
missing contributions.


The old way. Neon contributions are enabled by default.


I think the old way was better, but given that we are improving, I see 
contribution enabling as appropriate so that the missing contributions are 
highlighted.


AFAIAA all OCL's dependencies have declared intent so OCL can be enabled and 
that is what I have done.


    Regards


        Ed Willink

On 09/08/2016 13:09, Kaloyan Raev wrote:

Hi folks,


I don't want to break the party, but your recent changes, pushed directly to 
master, broke the validation build. Thus, everyone else who follow the clean 
process of contributing via Gerrit is blocked at the moment.


I am going to revert the last changes one by one until I get a clean validation 
build.


Please contribute your next changes via Gerrit.


Thanks,

Kaloyan

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Hi

XText has declared intent. XText releases asynchronously, so it is very likely 
that Xtext 2.10 crosses the boundary.

It seems unhelpful that you have inhibited aggregation contributions just 
because the XText releng has not realized how much trouble your enabled=false 
is causing.

I'll enable OCL so that things improve as soon as XText and friends appear.

    Regards

        Ed Willink

On 08/08/2016 18:27, David M Williams wrote:
> Can we have the Neon contributions available as in previous years?

Projects can do that, if they want -- as long as it is still "fits in".
But it is up to the project. They need to "declare intent" and provide a 
release record, AND THEN re-enable what every contribution they want to make.

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Hi

OCL too cannot be enabled until Xtext is enabled.

I feel that this attempt to bootstrap from nothing is going to make for some 
very tight late coordination.

Can we have the Neon contributions available as in previous years?

If enabled="false" is required to enforce announced participation, surely it 
would be better to apply it just after M2 to all projects that have made no 
SimRel commit since Neon?

    Regards

        Ed Willink

On 08/08/2016 16:34, Alexander Nyßen wrote:
Hi all,

I have just re-enabled the GEF repository for Oxygen and made available the 
Neon release version of GEF-legacy (Draw2d/GEF (MVC) 3.x, Zest 1.x) to enable 
downstream projects that depend on it. The GEF (formerly known as GEF4) 
contribution to M1 is already prepared as well, but I had to disable it for now 
because it depends on downstream projects (namely e(fx)clipse and Xtext) that 
have not updated their contributions yet. GEF will thus not be available today 
but on Wednesday.

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