I also fear that without enabling the Neon contributions the bootstrapping is not to be done. We are virtually postponing it all to Wednesday, when we will have to perform a piece-by-piece integration (probably on the level of individual features), hoping that all projects actually contribute something. GEF for instance depends on e(fx)clipse and Xtext, which - if I recollect correctly - have not even stated their intention to participate in Oxygen. I am keeping my fingers crossed...
Regards Alexander > Am 09.08.2016 um 14:36 schrieb Ed Willink <e...@willink.me.uk>: > > Hi > > Co-ordination would be good, but we have a new policy whose consequences do > not seem to have been appreciated. > > Indeed it is +2, and I see no successful +1 contributions. Just GEF that > enabled a Neon contribution to reduce its small contribution to the overall > deadlock. > > Regards > > Ed Willink > > On 09/08/2016 13:27, Kaloyan Raev wrote: >> Hi Ed, >> >> Can't all these projects coordinate and make the necessary contributions >> within a short time frame without leaving master broken for a long time? >> >> It's already M1 +2 date and the rest of the projects should be able to do >> their contributions. >> >> Kaloyan >> From: cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org >> <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org> >> <cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org> >> <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org> on behalf of Ed >> Willink <e...@willink.me.uk> <mailto:e...@willink.me.uk> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 3:20:07 PM >> To: cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org >> <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org> >> Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] GEF Oxygen M1 contribution only >> partially today >> >> Hi >> >> Feel free, but we have a policy problem. >> >> The earlier discussion was on Xtext dependencies. >> >> The build is currently failing because OCL depends on UML2 which is missing. >> >> Once UML2 is fixed, OCL and/or UML2 will fail because EMF and/or Xtext is >> missing. >> >> We therefore have three choices. >> >> Green all the way: No contribution is enabled till ALL prerequisites are >> enabled. This will be very slow because of the recursive dependencies, >> because relengs are not super-responsive, because it is August, because some >> projects never contribute at M1, and because M1 used to be two rather than >> one weeks long. >> >> Red till green: contribute as normal, so that the validator identifies the >> missing contributions. >> >> The old way. Neon contributions are enabled by default. >> >> I think the old way was better, but given that we are improving, I see >> contribution enabling as appropriate so that the missing contributions are >> highlighted. >> >> AFAIAA all OCL's dependencies have declared intent so OCL can be enabled and >> that is what I have done. >> >> Regards >> >> Ed Willink >> >> On 09/08/2016 13:09, Kaloyan Raev wrote: >>> Hi folks, >>> >>> I don't want to break the party, but your recent changes, pushed directly >>> to master, broke the validation build. Thus, everyone else who follow the >>> clean process of contributing via Gerrit is blocked at the moment. >>> >>> I am going to revert the last changes one by one until I get a clean >>> validation build. >>> >>> Please contribute your next changes via Gerrit. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Kaloyan >>> From: cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org >>> <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org> >>> <cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org> >>> <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org> on behalf of Ed >>> Willink <e...@willink.me.uk> <mailto:e...@willink.me.uk> >>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 8:39:57 PM >>> To: cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org >>> <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org> >>> Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] GEF Oxygen M1 contribution only >>> partially today >>> >>> Hi >>> XText has declared intent. XText releases asynchronously, so it is very >>> likely that Xtext 2.10 crosses the boundary. >>> It seems unhelpful that you have inhibited aggregation contributions just >>> because the XText releng has not realized how much trouble your >>> enabled=false is causing. >>> I'll enable OCL so that things improve as soon as XText and friends appear. >>> Regards >>> Ed Willink >>> On 08/08/2016 18:27, David M Williams wrote: >>>> > Can we have the Neon contributions available as in previous years? >>>> >>>> Projects can do that, if they want -- as long as it is still "fits in". >>>> But it is up to the project. They need to "declare intent" and provide a >>>> release record, AND THEN re-enable what every contribution they want to >>>> make. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Ed Willink <e...@willink.me.uk> <mailto:e...@willink.me.uk> >>>> To: cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org >>>> <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org>, >>>> Date: 08/08/2016 12:13 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] GEF Oxygen M1 contribution >>>> only partially today >>>> Sent by: cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org >>>> <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi >>>> OCL too cannot be enabled until Xtext is enabled. >>>> I feel that this attempt to bootstrap from nothing is going to make for >>>> some very tight late coordination. >>>> Can we have the Neon contributions available as in previous years? >>>> If enabled="false" is required to enforce announced participation, surely >>>> it would be better to apply it just after M2 to all projects that have >>>> made no SimRel commit since Neon? >>>> Regards >>>> Ed Willink >>>> >>>> On 08/08/2016 16:34, Alexander Nyßen wrote: >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I have just re-enabled the GEF repository for Oxygen and made available >>>> the Neon release version of GEF-legacy (Draw2d/GEF (MVC) 3.x, Zest 1.x) to >>>> enable downstream projects that depend on it. The GEF (formerly known as >>>> GEF4) contribution to M1 is already prepared as well, but I had to disable >>>> it for now because it depends on downstream projects (namely e(fx)clipse >>>> and Xtext) that have not updated their contributions yet. 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