Hi Ed,

thank you very much for providing all the insights and reports. This is
greatly appreciated!
When I checked the report for the Xtext marketplace entry, I saw a green
checkmark for the Juno release, even though the marketplace entry is only
for Oxygen and newer. What does that mean?

Best
Sebastian

On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 12:12 PM Ed Merks <ed.me...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On a more positive note, for the 2019-12 release, the installer exploits
> the platform's cool "link handler" support that was implemented by Matthias
> Becker; thanks Lars Vogel for drawing my attention to this gem.
>
> As an example, this means that clicking the following link can
> automatically launch the installer, in this case, initializing it in order
> to provision a specialized IDE for contributing to SimRel.
>
>
> eclipse+installer:https://git.eclipse.org/c/oomph/org.eclipse.oomph.git/plain/setups/interim/SimultaneousReleaseTrainConfiguration.setup
>
> It's kind of a chicken-and-egg problem that you must first download and
> register the installer once.  To make this step more  self-documenting,
> I've created a "help" page that describes how to exploit this feature:
>
>
> https://www.eclipse.org/setups/installer/?url=https://git.eclipse.org/c/oomph/org.eclipse.oomph.git/plain/setups/interim/SimultaneousReleaseTrainConfiguration.setup&show=true
>
> This page uses the documentation extracted from the configuration
> (specified in the query parameter) so that it's contextually tailored,
> including all its links.
>
> I've updated the simrel wiki to describe this automated approach to set up
> an environment for contributing to simrel:
>
>
> https://wiki.eclipse.org/Simrel/Contributing_to_Simrel_Aggregation_Build#Get_the_simrel.build_project
>
> So there isn't really a good excuse not to use the aggregation editor.
> Admitted I too typically just edit my *.aggrcon files actually, but mostly
> because saving creates such a big delta.  But the editor does have
> advantages, i.e., I can see if I pasted the URL incorrectly and that the
> IUs resolve correctly.   More importantly, as I mentioned previously, if
> you're adding a feature that needs to be in a category or removing a
> feature when it or any other feature after it are in a category, you will
> break the model if you do this textually.  And there were many such broken
> links as a result...
>
> This same mechanism can be used to provision a development environment
> with the source for the full Platform SDK:
>
>
> https://www.eclipse.org/setups/installer/?url=https://git.eclipse.org/c/oomph/org.eclipse.oomph.git/plain/setups/interim/PlatformSDKConfiguration.setup&show=true
>
> You can do this for your own projects too.  One-click contributions from
> your community are at you finger tips.
>
> In addition, this same mechanism can also be used to install marketplace
> listings, e.g.,
>
>
> https://www.eclipse.org/setups/installer/?url=https://marketplace.eclipse.org/content/wild-web-developer-html-css-javascript-typescript-nodejs-angular-json-yaml-kubernetes-xml&show=true
>
> So the installer now allows users to create an installation that includes
> one more additional marketplace listings as well.
>
> To help make the marketplace listings great again, the listings are now
> tested daily.  Bad listings give a bad impression of Eclipse, especially
> when we provide them ourselves.
>
> Currently there are 1316 marketplace listings that specify update sites.
> Of those, 541 have problems; some have minor problems, e.g.,  it can't be
> installed in the versions of Eclipse with which it's specified to be
> compatible, but many have major problems, i.e., the p2 site doesn't exist
> or doesn't contain the bundles/features that are required by the listing.
> The user perception is that anything they get from marketplace is "Eclipse"
> and any problem with those are "Eclipse" problems...
>
> If you maintain a listing, you can review the test results for your
> listing as follows:
>
>
> https://www.eclipse.org/setups/marketplace/?url=https://marketplace.eclipse.org/content/wild-web-developer-html-css-javascript-typescript-nodejs-angular-json-yaml-kubernetes-xml
>
> For the above listing, we can see that it doesn't actually install in
> versions of Eclipse older than Photon (and we can see why by clicking on
> the error icons) so it would be best to improve this listing to exclude
> those versions.
>
> Thanks to the Foundation's awesome web designers, a link to these
> listing-specific test results is available via the circled link on your
> listing's site:
>
> So if you maintain a marketplace listing, please help make it great too!!
>
> If you have comments, suggestions, or concerns about the marketplace
> listing reporting, please do so in:
>
>   https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=550713
>
> If you have comments, suggestions, or concerns about the installer's web
> link support, please do so in:
>
>   https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=551315
>
> Regards,
> Ed
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