Sebastian,

So I had a quick look and indeed these are false positives as detailed in this comment:

  https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=550713#c22

The short explanation is that the resolution process resolves the Xtext requirement to the version of Xtext on the train repo that it's being tested against.  So while one can install Xtext in Juno, one cannot install the 2.20 version of Xtext in Juno.

So I'll fix the tests and regenerate the report.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention!  Together we can all make everything better.

Cheers,
Ed

On 10.12.2019 12:58, Ed Merks wrote:

Sebastian,

Note that the job which does this testing is this one which includes a link to the overall report (which loads very slowly and is bad for the server):

https://ci.eclipse.org/oomph/job/marketplace-analyzer/

The testing actually tests every listing (does a p2 resolve) against every Eclipse version Juno through 2019.  It will only create an error marker if the p2 resolution fails *and *the listing specifies it should be installable in this version.  If the resolution succeeds, it creates a green marker, regardless of whether the listing specifies it should be installable for that version.

Of course it's quite possible that there are error or oversights in the testing process.  After all, I really won't expect Xtext to install in such an old version; I'm quite sure it doesn't.  So I will investigate why resolution succeeds in the test.

Regards,
Ed


On 10.12.2019 12:30, Sebastian Zarnekow wrote:
Hi Ed,

thank you very much for providing all the insights and reports. This is greatly appreciated! When I checked the report for the Xtext marketplace entry, I saw a green checkmark for the Juno release, even though the marketplace entry is only for Oxygen and newer. What does that mean?

Best
Sebastian

On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 12:12 PM Ed Merks <ed.me...@gmail.com <mailto:ed.me...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    Hi,

    On a more positive note, for the 2019-12 release, the installer
    exploits the platform's cool "link handler" support that was
    implemented by Matthias Becker; thanks Lars Vogel for drawing my
    attention to this gem.

    As an example, this means that clicking the following link can
    automatically launch the installer, in this case, initializing it
    in order to provision a specialized IDE for contributing to SimRel.

    
eclipse+installer:https://git.eclipse.org/c/oomph/org.eclipse.oomph.git/plain/setups/interim/SimultaneousReleaseTrainConfiguration.setup

    It's kind of a chicken-and-egg problem that you must first
    download and register the installer once.  To make this step
    more  self-documenting, I've created a "help" page that describes
    how to exploit this feature:

    
https://www.eclipse.org/setups/installer/?url=https://git.eclipse.org/c/oomph/org.eclipse.oomph.git/plain/setups/interim/SimultaneousReleaseTrainConfiguration.setup&show=true

    This page uses the documentation extracted from the configuration
    (specified in the query parameter) so that it's contextually
    tailored, including all its links.

    I've updated the simrel wiki to describe this automated approach
    to set up an environment for contributing to simrel:

    
https://wiki.eclipse.org/Simrel/Contributing_to_Simrel_Aggregation_Build#Get_the_simrel.build_project

    So there isn't really a good excuse not to use the aggregation
    editor.  Admitted I too typically just edit my *.aggrcon files
    actually, but mostly because saving creates such a big delta. 
    But the editor does have advantages, i.e., I can see if I pasted
    the URL incorrectly and that the  IUs resolve correctly.   More
    importantly, as I mentioned previously, if you're adding a
    feature that needs to be in a category or removing a feature when
    it or any other feature after it are in a category, you will
    break the model if you do this textually.  And there were many
    such broken links as a result...

    This same mechanism can be used to provision a development
    environment with the source for the full Platform SDK:

    
https://www.eclipse.org/setups/installer/?url=https://git.eclipse.org/c/oomph/org.eclipse.oomph.git/plain/setups/interim/PlatformSDKConfiguration.setup&show=true

    You can do this for your own projects too.  One-click
    contributions from your community are at you finger tips.

    In addition, this same mechanism can also be used to install
    marketplace listings, e.g.,

    
https://www.eclipse.org/setups/installer/?url=https://marketplace.eclipse.org/content/wild-web-developer-html-css-javascript-typescript-nodejs-angular-json-yaml-kubernetes-xml&show=true

    So the installer now allows users to create an installation that
    includes one more additional marketplace listings as well.

    To help make the marketplace listings great again, the listings
    are now tested daily.  Bad listings give a bad impression of
    Eclipse, especially when we provide them ourselves.

    Currently there are 1316 marketplace listings that specify update
    sites.  Of those, 541 have problems; some have minor problems,
    e.g.,  it can't be installed in the versions of Eclipse with
    which it's specified to be compatible, but many have major
    problems, i.e., the p2 site doesn't exist or doesn't contain the
    bundles/features that are required by the listing. The user
    perception is that anything they get from marketplace is
    "Eclipse" and any problem with those are "Eclipse" problems...

    If you maintain a listing, you can review the test results for
    your listing as follows:

    
https://www.eclipse.org/setups/marketplace/?url=https://marketplace.eclipse.org/content/wild-web-developer-html-css-javascript-typescript-nodejs-angular-json-yaml-kubernetes-xml

    For the above listing, we can see that it doesn't actually
    install in versions of Eclipse older than Photon (and we can see
    why by clicking on the error icons) so it would be best to
    improve this listing to exclude those versions.

    Thanks to the Foundation's awesome web designers, a link to these
    listing-specific test results is available via the circled link
    on your listing's site:

    So if you maintain a marketplace listing, please help make it
    great too!!

    If you have comments, suggestions, or concerns about the
    marketplace listing reporting, please do so in:

    https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=550713

    If you have comments, suggestions, or concerns about the
    installer's web link support, please do so in:

    https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=551315

    Regards,
    Ed

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