I can probably make it to Austin then. We could also meet in Boston or NYC. Any ideas you guys have are MOST welcome... let's get them in a pile.
Judd Maltin 1-917-882-1270 I have suffering to learn compassion once and once again. On Jun 2, 2013 5:31 PM, "Adam Spiers" <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks Rob / Judd / Simon for the clarification. Which of you will be > in Austin when I'm there (June 24-26)? Seems like a good opportunity > to continue this discussion. > > Rob Hirschfeld ([email protected]) wrote: > > Adam / Chris / CB Community, > > > > I tried to frame this during the design call and it's worth repeating -> > the original scope for CB2 was overly ambitious and I believe we need a > more practical target ("CB2 core") for our next iteration. > > > > We've accomplished a lot in CB2 trunk from database schema, jig > framework, Chef 11, Rails 3, Ruby 1.9, automated testing, integrated docs, > improved packaging and much other real progress. > > > > Most importantly, we have LEARNED a lot. With the pause for Pebbles, > we've had a chance to reflect. The #1 lesson for me is that our > orchestration plans were incomplete and too large. It is now clear to me > that the orchestration complexity was a major factor in our delivery slips. > > > > My objective is to start bringing these lessons learned to the community > for discussion. I think a dialog about them is important; however, we > need to accept that the code base will be "down-factored" to achieve a core > functionality set. These functions will include work from above that we've > accomplished and should also deliver important CB2 objectives like > late-bound networking, heterogeneous O/S, online cache mode, scale, > multiple CMDBs, and the ability share/upstream cookbooks. > > > > I've seen some great discussion on this topic so far. I hope my $0.02 > helps add clarity. > > > > I'm going offline for a week - I'm looking forward to seeing where > you've taken this when I return. > > > > Rob > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: crowbar-bounces On Behalf Of Adam Spiers > > Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 5:38 AM > > To: crowbar > > Subject: Re: [Crowbar] CB2 Core Design update > > > > Adam Spiers ([email protected]) wrote: > > > Rob Hirschfeld ([email protected]) wrote: > > > > Victor and I were kicking around the DB models a little more. The > result was a further refinement/simplification for discussion. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Deployment is the top level thing. Basically, all the roles > hang off the deployment (through the snapshot pointer). When a role has a > prerequisite, that prerequisite is always resolved from within the > deployment. The discussion image shows the role prereq chain in blue. > > > > > > Just checking you saw my feedback yesterday? I'm not yet convinced > > > how well this will work, but I'm very willing to be persuaded via > > > answers to my questions :) > > > > Just as an aside, I'm sort of puzzled that we're going through another > fundamental iteration of redesign of 2.0 at this point. Have the > timescales for release shifted sufficiently far into the future to make > this feasible? I haven't been too involved in those discussions so maybe I > missed something, but I thought the goal was to aim for a > > 2.0 release relatively soon after Pebbles? > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Crowbar mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.us.dell.com/mailman/listinfo/crowbar > > For more information: http://crowbar.github.com/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Crowbar mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.us.dell.com/mailman/listinfo/crowbar > For more information: http://crowbar.github.com/ >
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