Tom Weinstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > "William H. Geiger III": >> [...] Netscrape, Micky$loth, & RSADSI may have no problem selling >> false security to their customers, [...] > Despite your contempt for Netscape and Microsoft, they do, in fact, > sell strong crypto products where they are able to. Unfortunately, though, often the cryptgraphically weak products are used even though strong ones should be available; a prominent example is the TLS server at www.microsoft.com. If they don't bother to use real cryptography themselves, why would their customers act differently?
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