Summarizing, John Young says crypto has served bad motives and is engaged commerce for money. Since crypto can be sold to governments (those who don’t employ the majority of top mathematicians, I assume), it is oppressive and some people make money selling it.
I doubt there is a prison, spy headquarters, or torture chamber in the world that did not begin with the pencil of an architect. For money. What shall we do about architects? I think it may have been Phil Zimmermann who pointed out that the most elaborate and expensive of homes spend only a pittance on the door locks. If crypto is the path to commercial riches, it would come as a surprise to the capitalists on Sand Hill Road. Ed Stone > On Nov 19, 2015, at 8:21 PM, cryptography-requ...@randombit.net wrote: > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 07:04:05 -0500 > From: John Young <j...@pipeline.com> > To: cryptography@randombit.net > Subject: Re: [cryptography] Paris Attacks Blamed on Strong > Cryptography and Edward Snowden > Message-ID: <e1zznwv-0001yd...@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > At 01:21 AM 11/19/2015, you wrote: > >> how did hominids manage prior to crypto? > > Pretty much the way most hominids do today. And will continue > to do the same way until crypto becomes normalized (if ever) > and less esoteric, cultish, obnoxious, condescending, vain, > whiney, excuse making. And above all these negative traits, > eager to sell products to authoritarians, governments, cults, > criminals, oligarchs, banks, gamblers, drug dealers, yadda. > > Plenty of ways to avoid crypto as it has existed for its > very long history of serving the most evil, treacherous, > manipulative, deceptive, cheating, lying hominids on > earth and interstellar. > > Crypto has a wretched history of helping a few harm millions. > > Maybe it will change, but there has been a counter authority > of violence effort for only a couple of decades, and during > those decades the common practice of secretkeeping, lying > and cheating for crypto money making has grown even among > those loudly proclaiming the public benefits. PKC has indeed > enriched some, and others striving to get on that evil-doing > train of dual-hats and dual-use and dual-pontification. > > As the NY Times said of John Brennan, hard to believe anything > crypto advocates have to say due to the far greater number of > crypto sleazeball hominids reaping rewards of aiding governments > than crypto hominid honorables aiding one another. > > Spies and cryptographers spread secrets pox. Stay far away for good > health. Do not adopt that language everywhere. _______________________________________________ cryptography mailing list cryptography@randombit.net http://lists.randombit.net/mailman/listinfo/cryptography
