yeah, crypto is not the path to riches.
Brown, in his famous survey on maps said about alchemy, 'If one could
figure out how to turn lead into gold, what would that achieve? It
would cheapen the price of gold. Only a gov't / prince / king could use
it. If a commoner did it, he'd either be killed or kidnapped to do it
for someone else. So, why figure out how to turn lead into gold?'
I think in a certain measure, that applies to crypto too. The best is
in the hands of the gov't for a reason. They need it. If we never
shared secrets, we would never have trust. Society would break down.
It is not cost effective for the average person, even in a lot of
business situations. And, if you make crypto that good, the gov't, your
own or an enemy gov't or; the mob, will come after you to coerce you to
work for them. Money you will not make.
my 2c
don't remember Phil Zimmerman saying that. not in his book on PGP for sure.
On 11/20/2015 7:42 AM, Notify wrote:
Summarizing, John Young says crypto has served bad motives and is engaged
commerce for money. Since crypto can be sold to governments (those who don’t
employ the majority of top mathematicians, I assume), it is oppressive and some
people make money selling it.
I doubt there is a prison, spy headquarters, or torture chamber in the world
that did not begin with the pencil of an architect. For money. What shall we do
about architects?
I think it may have been Phil Zimmermann who pointed out that the most
elaborate and expensive of homes spend only a pittance on the door locks. If
crypto is the path to commercial riches, it would come as a surprise to the
capitalists on Sand Hill Road.
Ed Stone
On Nov 19, 2015, at 8:21 PM, cryptography-requ...@randombit.net wrote:
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 07:04:05 -0500
From: John Young <j...@pipeline.com>
To: cryptography@randombit.net
Subject: Re: [cryptography] Paris Attacks Blamed on Strong
Cryptography and Edward Snowden
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At 01:21 AM 11/19/2015, you wrote:
how did hominids manage prior to crypto?
Pretty much the way most hominids do today. And will continue
to do the same way until crypto becomes normalized (if ever)
and less esoteric, cultish, obnoxious, condescending, vain,
whiney, excuse making. And above all these negative traits,
eager to sell products to authoritarians, governments, cults,
criminals, oligarchs, banks, gamblers, drug dealers, yadda.
Plenty of ways to avoid crypto as it has existed for its
very long history of serving the most evil, treacherous,
manipulative, deceptive, cheating, lying hominids on
earth and interstellar.
Crypto has a wretched history of helping a few harm millions.
Maybe it will change, but there has been a counter authority
of violence effort for only a couple of decades, and during
those decades the common practice of secretkeeping, lying
and cheating for crypto money making has grown even among
those loudly proclaiming the public benefits. PKC has indeed
enriched some, and others striving to get on that evil-doing
train of dual-hats and dual-use and dual-pontification.
As the NY Times said of John Brennan, hard to believe anything
crypto advocates have to say due to the far greater number of
crypto sleazeball hominids reaping rewards of aiding governments
than crypto hominid honorables aiding one another.
Spies and cryptographers spread secrets pox. Stay far away for good
health. Do not adopt that language everywhere.
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