Saint K is so adorable. Very strong, hard coded opinions about how community servers should be run based on his 18 years of real life community operating experience. If communities aren't run how he thinks they should, they should die a painful death, their owners probably should too huh?
Let's take a look at Saint K's well maintained community that survives on donations and nothing more. Head on over to specialattack.net. There you can see their donation counter in the top left corner, which SHOCKINGLY reads $0 of $160 needed and here we are halfway through the month! Can you believe it? I can't. It absolutely has to be an error because his highly developed website (circa 1999) and the non-existing TF2 & CSGO game servers that he is running during peak hours in Europe definitely must draw more than enough happy supporters that are willing to donate their hard earned money to his obviously well maintained community, as opposed to spending their money on other games, skins, or things that help them ensure their thirst for instant gratification is quenched. And here Saint K is, no online CS:GO servers or anything, kind enough to come to the CSGO servers mailing list and fill us all in on how communities should be operated. His 2 CSGO servers ( https://hlstatsx.specialattack.net/hlstats.php?game=csgo ) are booming with popularity (they aren't. they're not even online xD) and he is sparing his precious time to help us by belittling our efforts and throwing off personal insults. Let's take a look at his TF2 servers. It APPEARS that he has a pretty good amount and that at least 1 is popular ( https://hlstatsx.specialattack.net/hlstats.php?game=tf ). WRONG. Here is that same stats page + player counts next to the Steam Server browser where I added all his servers to my favorites. Kind funny how only 1 of them is even online, it's Garry's Mod, and it's empty, that is really weird: http://imgur.com/BoaCUh6 And lastly, here is his 1 single server that shows up in game tracker (I tried every combination of special attack names to make sure this was accurate): http://www.gametracker.com/search/?query=specialattack&sort=2&order=ASC So tell us more bullshit Saint K, you slimey weasel. All you ever do is show up here, acting holier than thou, thinking you are something special. Spoiler alert: you're not. You don't even peak anyone's radar until you come flapping your gums. Your non existent servers are empty. Your forums are dead. Donations don't exist outside of you donating for appearances. Get over yourself, fuckin twat. UPDATE: Just as I was finished writing this, he had a 19 dollar donation show up on his counter. That is fucking hilarious. Saint, are you sending the lunch money your mom gave you to your donations so it looks like someone cares? Lol =D On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 11:37 AM, Absurd Minds <goabs...@absurdminds.net> wrote: > Location is a huge factor. I can tell by your website you're based in > Europe (but I couldn't find your csgo servers?), which has a much different > cago community than America. There's a much greater emphasis on competitive > play in Europe and vanilla servers are more accepted, whereas in America > things are a lot more casual. It's very difficult to get donations in > America if you're not providing something like skin plugins, and nobody > cares enough about any community to purchase a reserved slot. That's why > almost all American servers run ads or are simply paid out of pocket by the > owner. Things that work in one market don't always work in other markets, > and it's a huge mistake to generalize as if they do. > > On Jun 14, 2017 11:23 AM, "Saint K." <sai...@specialattack.net> wrote: > >> I've been running gaming communities since 1999. >> >> That money grabbing attitude is something from the last 5-10 years. >> >> Donations never have been an issue for any of the communities I've dealt >> with. A simple reserved-slot reward is what users receive on donating. It's >> simple economics - create something people *want* and you shall have no >> problem surviving. If you create half-assed shit whining about not being >> able to make money, your servers deserve to die a painful death. >> >> I already mentioned VALVe has no interest in us anymore. They've achieved >> their wealth. People hosting gamingcommunities are none of their interest >> anymore. >> >> Complaining about any of these situations is not going to help. It hasn't >> for the past years, and it surely won't help now. They simply don't give a >> flying fuck. >> >> Saint K. >> >> >> * From: * Kristaps Kusiņš <kristap...@gmail.com> >> * To: * <csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> >> * Sent: * 6/14/2017 3:46 PM >> * Subject: * Re: [Csgo_servers] Valve should create a place to report >> cheating servers, on website >> >> You are a moron if you think that people want to pay for something that >> they can get for free, I could apply the same logic to valves decision, if >> people want to buy skins they will buy them why block the plugins? >> >> And those servers who continue running these plugins are UNIQUE and they >> exist because players are paying for it, so it is quite obvious what >> players actually want... >> >> 2017-06-14 15:30 GMT+02:00 Saint K. <sai...@specialattack.net>: >> >> That's where the communities went wrong. >> >> You don't host servers to earn money with. You put down a proper concept >> and people will donate out of free will. That's how you pay for your >> servers. >> If your concept fails, no donations, you have no reason to exist. >> >> Money grabbing idiots like you screwed shit up. >> >> Saint K. >> >> >> * From: * Kristaps Kusiņš <kristap...@gmail.com> >> * To: * <csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> >> * Sent: * 6/14/2017 2:49 PM >> * Subject: * Re: [Csgo_servers] Valve should create a place to report >> cheating servers, on website >> >> The problem is that they don't realize we have to pay server bills too... >> >> On Jun 14, 2017 2:22 PM, "Andre Müller" <gbs.dead...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> This concept of monetization kills the community. You can observe day for >> day the dwindling gameserver community. >> >> Good bye srcds. >> >> Kristaps Kusiņš <kristap...@gmail.com> schrieb am Mi., 14. Juni 2017 um >> 11:43 Uhr: >> >> Why the heck there is such a thing as forbidden plugins, that is like >> making a mod for skyrim, and skyrim devs would ban players for using it. >> This is just plain stupid. >> >> On Jun 14, 2017 11:37 AM, "Rolf Maas" <zappe...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> What is your point? They already get banned every 2 days…. >> >> Yes, they get new tokens every banwave… Valve doesn’t care, since they’ll >> just earn more $$$$$$$$$$$ when they ban the servers. >> >> >> >> Since Valve doesn’t care about the community at all, people will always >> use forbidden plugins. Maybe you just should do the same… ;-) >> >> >> >> -Rolf >> >> >> >> *Van: *Csgo_servers <csgo_servers-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com> namens >> Nguyễn Bảo Danh <danh20...@gmail.com> >> *Beantwoorden - Aan: *<csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> >> *Datum: *woensdag 14 juni 2017 11:30 >> *Aan: *<csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> >> *Onderwerp: *[Csgo_servers] Valve should create a place to report >> cheating servers, on website >> >> >> >> Valve should create a place to report cheating servers, on website. We >> don’t need to join their server to report in game. >> >> As we can Find they listing here: >> http://www.gametracker.com/search/csgo/?query=%21ws+%21knife >> >> >> >> Those servers with !knife !gloves !ws plugins. >> >> >> Thanks and best regards! >> >> __________________________________________________ >> >> Danh Nguyễn Bảo >> >> *Phó Giám Đốc* >> >> *Cty Quảng Cáo Minh Thành L.H.P* >> >> p: >> >> 84-8 2213 0604 m: 0976168179 <09761%2068179> >> >> a: >> >> 374/25 Lê Hồng Phong, P.1, Q.10, HCMC >> >> w: >> >> minhthanh.com e: d...@minhthanh.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ Csgo_servers mailing >> list Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com https://list.valvesoftware.com >> /cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Csgo_servers mailing list >> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Csgo_servers mailing list >> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Csgo_servers mailing list >> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Csgo_servers mailing list >> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Csgo_servers mailing list >> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Csgo_servers mailing list >> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Csgo_servers mailing list >> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >> > > _______________________________________________ > Csgo_servers mailing list > Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >
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