Am 28.07.2018 um 08:34 schrieb Neuro Toxin (via csgo_servers list) 
<csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com>:

> I personally use them for almost everything. Administration, rules, logs, 
> gamemode configs, user settings, forums, messages, stats, ban/kick messages, 
> welcome motd, tracking.

Just wanted to let you know I’m on your side here. I personally don’t use the 
backend parts ingame but a lot of users prefer the web listing for maps 
(showing you all your records, which place, images for the maps, callvote 
button, etc.) and the ingame UI options we have are just not cutting it 
generally.

> Plz plz plz dont make me depressed by hitting delete on years spent coding my 
> administration panels.

Honestly I’m at a point where I would just delete the servers with it. It’s 
just no fun anymore to „play“ according to the rules whilst others cycle their 
GSLT’s every day with virtually no consequence.


And for the nay sayers: You were always able to block HTML motds client side 
and if the support weren’t so bad you wouldn’t have to resort to invisible 
panels that from the nature of things blast with full volume (or whatever the 
Steam WebHelper has in your mixer, it doesn’t care about your game settings). 
For me, get rid of invisible panels or disallow audio to combat ads but then 
again, radios, etc. depend on the same thing. Opening URLs in the overlay 
sounds like a good idea but that won’t prevent ads either, to the contrary 
without any sort of limiting they are gonna open hundreds of tabs for you :)

But Volvo making „sv_disable_motd“ a protected CVAR and disabling it by default 
(back in late 2017) speaks books to me, they don’t really care about us or how 
we provide the community with custom experiences.


Just my 2 cents,

Sven


> On Saturday, 28 July 2018, 6:04:26 am AEST, James F <finchjam...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> In my eyes, advertisements aren't really a major problem in the csgo scene, 
> loud obnoxious ones are. The way to counter would be to just have it so that 
> videos with sound don't play automatically just like in the new chromium 
> update.
> 
> My servers are heavily dependent on web commands and adding a button is an 
> amazing counter but it just doesn't cut it in my eyes.
> 
> On Fri, 27 Jul 2018, 8:44 pm Mark Schieldrop, <m...@schieldrop.us> wrote:
> Sure, but when the ethically minded people are outnumbered by a large margin, 
> it’s understandable why they’d choose to get rid of it even if it affects the 
> few who used it appropriately.
> 
>  
> 
> From: <csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> on behalf of Will Graham 
> <wgra...@cevo.com>
> Reply-To: "csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com" 
> <csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com>
> Date: Friday, July 27, 2018 at 3:05 PM
> To: "csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com" 
> <csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com>
> Subject: RE: [Csgo_servers] PanoramaUI community server issue update July 
> 26th motdfile
> 
>  
> 
> Please do not assume that everyone on this list (or everyone that’s used MOTD 
> panels) was doing so maliciously or for commercial gain.  Some of us using 
> them ethically are penalized by this change as well.
> 
>  
> 
> Will Graham
> 
> CEVO Inc
> 
>  
> 
> From: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com 
> <csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> On Behalf Of Dennis B
> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 3:02 PM
> To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] PanoramaUI community server issue update July 
> 26th motdfile
> 
>  
> 
> Only reason why you want to show rules it  to be able to run your 
> commercials, please do not add motd back, let them add a welcome message, 
> period
> 
>  
> 
> 2018-07-27 20:45 GMT+02:00 Ejziponken - <sza...@hotmail.com>:
> 
> Maybe they should make it so we add TEXT with CSS in a MOTD window, but not 
> actually showing websites or have annoying ads showing in them. No redirects 
> etc. 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Med vänliga hälsningar / Best regards
> 
>  
> 
> Christopher Szabo | Chairman of the Board
> 
>  
> 
> Skype: szaabo85 | E-mail: sza...@hotmail.com
> 
> Website: BrutalCS.nu | Facebook: Facebook.com/BrutalCS
> 
>  
> 
> Från: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com 
> <csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> för Brandon @ OBEK <bran...@obek.com>
> Skickat: den 27 juli 2018 20:34
> Till: Csgo Servers
> Ämne: [Csgo_servers] PanoramaUI community server issue update July 26th 
> motdfile
> 
>  
> 
> Dear CSGO Devs,
> 
>  
> 
> Adding a button to the scoreboard is nice but doesn't solve or replace the 
> important purpose of a motd that needs to be a welcome message when a player 
> joins a community server. New players not knowing the rules or how to play 
> the many different gamemodes/mods when joining a community server is going to 
> be quite annoying and hurt the csgo community as a whole. All players need to 
> equally see important information/rules upon joining a community server.
> 
>  
> 
> A suggested improvement would be to allow server owners the option (by cvar 
> sv_disable_motd) to display an "I Agree" motd window on player join that can 
> be set to a url of the server owner’s choice via the motdfile. Basically how 
> it was but with an “I Agree” button to continue with users’ consent.
> 
>  
> 
> Please do not release Panorama UI as forced default for everyone without 
> community servers having the option to show motd on player join.
> 
>  
> 
> Thank you.
> 
>  
> 
> ---
> 
> Brandon
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 8:10 PM, Brandon @ OBEK <bran...@obek.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello, I founded one of the largest gaming communities since 2005 that is 
> top5 on GameTracker. This is my first time reaching out.
> 
>  
> 
> Feedback/Question:
> 
> Panorama UI broke MOTD (Message Of The Day) for community game servers. Many 
> communities depend on it to differentiate themselves and provide very 
> important details/rules on how to play the custom community game modes they 
> are joining. For new players this is extremely problematic. Are there plans 
> to fix MOTD before Panorama UI is default for everyone?
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> —
> 
> Brandon
> 
>  
> 
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