>>the issue was a 5 col layout that had equal  lengths.<<

Actually, Ian - I *think( that might have been me.  I believe the 
original question was just a question.  I was one of the early 
responders to this thread, and I had mentioned the *only* time I have 
not been able to accomplish a layout was a theoretical one that was 
posed to me as a challenge: 5 columns, fluid, 100% width/height, header 
and "sticky" footer, and each section had to have a different background 
color without the use of the "faux colums" method.

So I think you're thinking of my response, not the original question ;)

However, I'm finding this *fascinating*.  I missed who it was (Jay, 
maybe?) had described his light use of tables, and I have to admit there 
are occasions when I've done the same thing - rare ones, but it has 
happened.  I don't think that tables should *never* be used, but I think 
the general "rule of thumb" - at least that I've always followed - is 
use them for tabular data.  (But a "rule of thumb" is just that - if you 
step out of that boundary every once in a while - and in a semantic and 
clean way - the CSS Police won't be knocking on your door to haul you 
off to prison ;))

 >>Browser cross-compatibility?  Well, that's not a blessing, it's a 
fantasy,<<

I have to address this comment, as well...I don't believe it's a 
fantasy.  I think *now*, it is difficult, because there's so many things 
here and there that aren't coming together.  But I think things have 
improved *greatly* over the past decade or so.  I remember when I 
started doing this in high school, putting in those "This site looks 
better in.." comments all the time.  Things have advanced so much and so 
fast, it's amazing.

I think if it weren't for the "fantasy" of having the joy of creating a 
design in one browser and not even having to check it in any other ones, 
because they're all doing what the should be doing - I think that's 
closer to becoming a reality than some people think.  But for change to 
take effect, people have to be willing to embrace the "new" and not shun 
it simply because it's "hard".  Nothing worth *anything* ever came from 
being easy.

Anyway, off my soapbox (for what it's worth) - I know I sound like a 
wide-eyed kid waiting for the tooth fairy, but that's just how I feel :)

~Shelly
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