On Jul 14, 2008, at 1:50 AM, Michelle Cole wrote:

> I can't find any reason for this to be happening - and I assumed it
> was how my Mac (using Firefox and/or Safari) just renders fonts.  But
> the client is using a PC, ad he says the same thing is happening to  
> him.
>
> When I did the comp for this, the text was definitely lighter - but I
> just cannot get it to render at a lighter weight no matter what I
> try.  (I've used "lighter" and used "100" to no effect).
>
> I (and the client) really want this font to show up less bold.  Is
> there something *I'm* doing to cause this, or is it just how browsers
> render things nowadays?  (I do have a PC, and it's showing up how it
> should in Firefox and IE 6, but IE7 is doing the "bold" thing as
> well.) If it's a browser setting, I can deal with that - but if this
> the way things will be heading by default, I think I need to find
> another, lighter, font that won't display like this.  Anyone have any
> suggestions?  Even Arial/Helvetica is rendering bold.

You are using OS X 10.5.x. That 'extra bold' with Trebuchet MS, and to  
a lesser extend some other fonts, is a bug in the OS font rendering  
(Core Text) [1]. Not much you can do about that (and it renders fine  
on OS X 10.4).

As far as IE Win is concerned, not sure, might be related to the font- 
smoothing settings.
In general, Trebuchet MS is a little fat on the side anyway.

For OS X,  you can use the following:
{font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; font-weight: 200;}
This will look less 'fat' than any other combination. Unfortunately,  
that fix will only affect Gecko 1.9 / Firefox 3.0, as it is the only  
browser that supports multiple font-weights.
That will also work in the next release of Safari (the nightly builds  
of WebKit also support multiple font-weights).

This page suggest some other fixes:
http://jonnotie.nl/blog/fix-the-bad-text-rendering-in-safari/
none are very good. The opacity hack will slow down the page if you  
have lots of text. The text-shadow hack relies on a bug in the current  
release of Safari (and won't work elsewhere).

[1] tracked here for the Gecko rendering engine
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=439862

Philippe
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Philippe Wittenbergh
http://l-c-n.com/





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