The rant is fine, though the link you sent is broken. I wonder if you have a current link, I'm curious.
I also felt the Sitepoint article and book was reaching to make something out of nothing. In the long run, it will be great if all browsers can implement standards and if standards can provide some really useful tools. I also suspect that having to reach for solutions had inspired some creativity that may never have surfaced if tables had been the only available positioning tool. --Kenoli On Nov 3, 2008, at 9:54 PM, Thierry Koblentz wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> discuss.org] On Behalf Of Kenoli Oleari >> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 7:10 PM >> To: CSS Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [css-d] CSS tables >> >> The Sitepoint book proposes beginning to move away from IE 6&7, >> offering several strategies for doing this, all with the goal of >> pushing people to upgrade to IE8. It suggests that this is the >> beginning of a new cycle that will push CSS and site design to a new >> level eventually and sooner if there is a new press toward conforming >> to an improving CSS standards. > > > I read the Sitepoint article as well as the Web-digital one, I > really don't > think this kind of article will help the community to go forward as > they are > presented in a purely academic way. And because these demos are not > for the > real world, people look at them as nothing else than "experiments". > Imho this goes against what you're saying . Web designers who could > have > made the effort won't go there because of poor browser support and > those > who're still living in 1998 are too happy to badmouth the technique as > another "failure" of CSS when it comes to build browser-friendly > layouts. > > Anyway, as some of us have shown before there are other ways to make > it work > in IE: > http://tjkdesign.com/articles/css-layout/no_div_no_float_no_clear_no_hack_no > _joke.asp > > And to answer your other point. As Ingo mentioned in one of the > comments > following the Sitepoint article [1], the real deal is not > display:table, but > inline-block! > > Sorry for the rant :-( > > [1] > http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/02/28/table-based-layout-is-the-next-big > -thing/#comment-654940 > > > -- > Regards, > Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
