Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote: > On 5/2/09 23:17, Sandy wrote: > >> Do screen readers not read generated list counters? > > > JAWS and Window-Eyes do not currently read text inserted with the > "content" property, although they do reflect list-style-type values. > >> How would you let a screen reader know that you are in a list if you >> are using real numbers? > > > [snip] > >> Is there another reason than accessibility that numbers as real text are >> what we need? > > > Well, if the numbers are part of the content (e.g. certain legal > documents), then they belong in the content layer (HTML) not the > skinning layer (CSS). > > Remember a user isn't necessarily seeing your skin; they might be > applying their own CSS or viewing with a user agent that doesn't support > CSS. > > There's no satisfying way of doing this, but the following are all > viable approaches: > > <ul> > <li>1. foo</li> > <li>2. bar</li> > </ul> > > <p>1. foo</p> > <p>2. bar</p> > > <dl> > <dt>1.</dt> > <dd>foo</dd> > <dt>2.</dt> > <dd>bar</dd> > </dl> > > <h2>1.</h2> > <p>foo</p> > <h2>2.</h2> > <p>baz</p> > > Personally, I'd normally go for the first option. > > I would avoid: > > <ol> > <li>1. foo</li> > <li>2. bar</li> > </ol> > > since you could end up with the user being presented a confusing > double-numbering of items (once from the "ol" and once from the text > content of the "li"). > > -- > Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
Benjamin, Tedd, Jukka, Georg, Thanks so much for taking the time to help me think about this, and for sharing your expertise. Benjamin - this was the sentence! > Well, if the numbers are part of the content (e.g. certain legal > documents), then they belong in the content layer (HTML) the numbers are part of a (you guessed it) legal document, so there they are in the content layer. http://www.caut.ca/ugfa/test/about/plan2intent.html This has the added advantage of making sense to me, unlike php (but thank you, Tedd)! Benjamin, > JAWS and Window-Eyes do not currently read text inserted with the > "content" property, although they do reflect list-style-type values. does this mean that if you have an <ol> that someone using a screen reader won't hear the list numbers? Thanks! Sandy ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
