On Mar 5, 2011, at 7:44 PM, Felix Miata wrote: > http://fm.no-ip.com/Auth/Font/fonts-weightier.html should show at least some > readers that weights lighter than 400 do exist in at least a couple of > commonly available families, one of which is free and available to all, and > installed by default on most Linux systems. I was dumbfounded to discover > Helvetica Neue actually has two weights lighter than 400
The fact that Helvetica Neue has some weights lighter than 400 (100 - extra light and 300 -light), has been mentioned a couple of times on this list. In addition to 400 and 700 it has also a 500 (medium) weight on OS X 10.6. And OS X 10.6.4+ ships with Helvetica font-weight 300 face. Fwiw. OS X has a few more fonts with multiple font-weights. Your test case has bad fall back. I don't have DejaVu (*) installed anymore on OS X, and what I see is my default monospace font, not my default sans-serif font (Helvetica Neue). Removing all instances of monospace in your test file makes it fall back correctly. > am at a loss to fathom how lighter than normal/400 is technically possible at > the minescule 12px size so commonly used by web pages Both the lighter faces display perfectly fine on my systems, even at 10 ~ 12px. Whether I can read text comfortably at that size is another matter, unrelated to the font-weight. (*) iirc, DejaVu ships with a font-weight 100 face in addition to 400 and 700 weights. That extra-light face is bad btw (validation errors), and should not be installed on OS X. Philippe -- Philippe Wittenbergh http://l-c-n.com/ ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/