MiB your message seems to go into your development process rather then
on grids and columns and understanding them !
MiB <mailto:digital.disc...@gmail.com>
Tuesday, October 07, 2014 4:52 AM
That really depends on your objective.
I don't use a grid framework but use my own basic layouts, that I
evolve further in every project, and I do variations on these. More
often than not I make an initial specific basic grid for just holding
my content and make sure that works and displays as expected in my
development platforms (Firefox, Chrome on Android as well as Opera or
Safari on IOS), then I build content-out. I always start with the
content, believing this is what my design should enhance. Working
content-out is the key.
This content phase is a point where I've gotten into trouble with
clients, because they seldom deliver quality content at the start. So
I learnt to get that requirement on them in the signed agreements that
also details what ”finished” means allowing for further paid
refinements outside of this. I’m not starting development work without
one.
Nevertheless, content is what it’s all about. Content really is a
design problem, so usually I spend time with customers at this stage
to develop their content too. Which I charge for naturally.
We usually involves use cases, personas and user stories during the
development process and many other methods too depending on the project.
Then I set the grid for mobile, add media queries so also computers
get a basic design. Then I build all pages and functions and gradually
work on the design iteratively, with real content in the test site and
try different designs. At some point I make design developments in all
media queries, slowly bringing them together.
I put layouts, typography (including fonts), color in different CSS
files (or SCSS) at this stage, so that I can switch at any stage.
Later, closer to delivery, I bring them together and minify them all
in one file.
I use the built-in development tools in Firefox mainly to do the
design as well as a the text editor of choice. I make the graphics I
need in Fireworks and/or Photoshop. I’ve tried to find a replacement
for these, but failed so far.
This all means I design in the browser. I make quick sketches on paper
to discuss with clients, but these days never in Photoshop. I have an
open design process, making the site available for the client as I
work, so they can follow the design development.
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Crest Christopher <mailto:crestchristop...@gmail.com>
Monday, October 06, 2014 11:50 PM
I created a starting point of a quasi web site, if I was using the 960
grid system, as an example. I placed two divs on the page.
I want to know, is this the method you use grids or is my starting
point completely off the rails ?
[Link
<http://www.thecreativesheep.ca/webdesignprojects/smallprojects/demo_24_col.html>]
MiB <mailto:digital.disc...@gmail.com>
Monday, October 06, 2014 3:54 PM
Side-note: It’s useful to know what’s possible, but we all still have
to do one page design at a time to really make it possible. Anything’s
possible more or less. The real questions are commonly more like
"what’s needed?", "what answers the objectives set up?" and "what
looks irresistable when it’s on the web in any (target) browser on any
(target) device?" and similar.
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Crest Christopher <mailto:crestchristop...@gmail.com>
Monday, October 06, 2014 1:18 AM
I was throwing random ideologies that exist as questions.
The basis of CSS I know, I may not have it all memorized but I know
what is possible, if it's advanced css, I may be rusty, but once
again, I know what is possible. You don't need a grid frame work,
obviously, although if you want to build a responsive site they say it
will help with the development.
As for flaky web development information on the web, yes there is
obviously way to much online, IMO you have to wipe all of that off the
table and learn the foundation, then for all other questions that are
present, there is none other then, for example, this mailing list !
MiB <mailto:digital.disc...@gmail.com>
Sunday, October 05, 2014 12:44 PM
3 okt 2014 kl. 02:31 skrev Crest Christopher<crestchristop...@gmail.com>:
you cut up your graphics
You don’t. You do sprites or use CSs.
and now how do you translate the design from the PSD to your grid,
You don’t translate. You use PS for creating some graphics and perhaps treating
photos. You design in the browser. Or in yuor head.
o you get an exact representation of your site whether it's a responsive site
or not
You don’t "an exact representation” of something. You build a web site.
Let go of the 90’s and even the 00’s. It’s over.
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