Using the link I provided as a base, I want to know is the route that I have taken correct in building and a site and using a grid framework ?

Most frameworks include a school of divs and a school of classes in the style sheet, this is why I want to know is the starting method I took, the right path in using a grid frame work ?

MiB - Do you have any of your grids to show ?

MiB <mailto:digital.disc...@gmail.com>
Tuesday, October 07, 2014 11:55 AM

It does. My apologies.

It should be clear though my grids are always different when the content is different. To me "a grid” is chosen specifically based on the actual content.

In short my grids are just simple width divisions and height divisions based on font size and readability decisions. Your original question concerned grid frameworks didn’t it? I tried to explain that instead of a grid framework I use a process in how I build my grid-based designs. This could of course involve a grid framework as these are normally flexible on what grid they can build. I don’t use them.

Maybe what you want to know is more about how to apply a specific grid in a specific framework?
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Tuesday, October 07, 2014 10:18 AM
MiB your message seems to go into your development process rather then on grids and columns and understanding them !

MiB <mailto:digital.disc...@gmail.com>
Tuesday, October 07, 2014 4:52 AM

That really depends on your objective.

I don't use a grid framework but use my own basic layouts, that I evolve further in every project, and I do variations on these. More often than not I make an initial specific basic grid for just holding my content and make sure that works and displays as expected in my development platforms (Firefox, Chrome on Android as well as Opera or Safari on IOS), then I build content-out. I always start with the content, believing this is what my design should enhance. Working content-out is the key.

This content phase is a point where I've gotten into trouble with clients, because they seldom deliver quality content at the start. So I learnt to get that requirement on them in the signed agreements that also details what ”finished” means allowing for further paid refinements outside of this. I’m not starting development work without one. Nevertheless, content is what it’s all about. Content really is a design problem, so usually I spend time with customers at this stage to develop their content too. Which I charge for naturally. We usually involves use cases, personas and user stories during the development process and many other methods too depending on the project.

Then I set the grid for mobile, add media queries so also computers get a basic design. Then I build all pages and functions and gradually work on the design iteratively, with real content in the test site and try different designs. At some point I make design developments in all media queries, slowly bringing them together.

I put layouts, typography (including fonts), color in different CSS files (or SCSS) at this stage, so that I can switch at any stage. Later, closer to delivery, I bring them together and minify them all in one file.

I use the built-in development tools in Firefox mainly to do the design as well as a the text editor of choice. I make the graphics I need in Fireworks and/or Photoshop. I’ve tried to find a replacement for these, but failed so far.

This all means I design in the browser. I make quick sketches on paper to discuss with clients, but these days never in Photoshop. I have an open design process, making the site available for the client as I work, so they can follow the design development.

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Monday, October 06, 2014 11:50 PM
I created a starting point of a quasi web site, if I was using the 960 grid system, as an example. I placed two divs on the page.

I want to know, is this the method you use grids or is my starting point completely off the rails ?

[Link <http://www.thecreativesheep.ca/webdesignprojects/smallprojects/demo_24_col.html>]

MiB <mailto:digital.disc...@gmail.com>
Monday, October 06, 2014 3:54 PM

Side-note: It’s useful to know what’s possible, but we all still have to do one page design at a time to really make it possible. Anything’s possible more or less. The real questions are commonly more like "what’s needed?", "what answers the objectives set up?" and "what looks irresistable when it’s on the web in any (target) browser on any (target) device?" and similar.
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