And unfortunately when everyone uses a framework and does not learn how that 
framework actually works because they never took the time to learn on their 
own, you end up with sub par implementations of said framework. Just Look at 
Flash. 

Main reason it bombed is because of the programmers not learning the best way 
to used and code it. That is what I think, created, what Jobs hated about 
flash, but I'm wandering into ot land now. 

I say always start with learning it yourself. It may turn into YOU creating a 
framework. 

Best,
Karl

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> On Sep 7, 2015, at 3:48 PM, MiB <digital.disc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>> 7 sep 2015 kl. 21:07 skrev Philip Taylor <p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk>:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> MiB wrote:
>> 
>>> sep 3 2015 16:16 marie-ange.demeulemees...@bnpparibasfortis.com:
>>> 
>>>> The only way to detect Android is [J]avaS[c]ript.
>>> 
>>> It’s kinda pointless attempting to do this yourself as there are frameworks 
>>> for this, also commercial.
>> 
>> I would respectfully disagree.  It is /never/ pointless to attempt to do
>> something oneself that could be accomplished using a library routine /
>> framework / w-h-y.  By attempting to do it oneself, one learns; by using
>> a library routine / framework / w-h-y, one learns almost nothing.
>> 
>> Philip Taylor
> 
> Well put, Philip. 
> I’m just lazy that way and I choose where to invest my energy, which is the 
> server back end.  But if it was a paying customer that needed this i’d choose 
> a commercial alternative or a framework to save them the expense for me 
> learning this. If it was a pro bono job I’d contemplate spending time also on 
> learning something like this.
> 
> It’s always wise to leave as many options on the table as there are, until 
> you need to make the choice.
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