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<A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V2.44/pageone.html">Laissez Faire City Times
- Volume 2 Issue 44</A>
The Laissez Faire City Times
December 28, 1998 - Volume 2, Issue 44
Editor & Chief: Emile Zola
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Religious Right, Religious Rights:

an interview with Americans United

by Alberto Mingardi


"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof . . . ": This is the First
Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, which provides for the separation of
Church and State, and hence for School and State.

In the opinion of members of Americans United for Separation of State
and School (AU) today the First Amendment is under threat as never
before.

Instead, for AU,


"today, powerful religious leaders and misguided politicians have joined
forces to undercut the First Amendment. Since 1947, Americans United has
worked to protect the constitutional principle of church- state
separation, a vital cornerstone of religious liberty. Americans of many
faiths and political viewpoints, individuals from all walks of life,
have come together to defend freedoms. Mandatory prayer in public
schools, tax dollars for parochial schools, government intrusion into
religious affairs and meddling in partisan politics by religious groups
are among the troubling issues that threaten the protective wall between
church and state."

Americans United has more than 50,000 members-- 50,000 persons whose
ideas, in my humble opinion, are maybe a bit confused. Reading AU's
Private School Vouchers: Myth vs. Fact in fact you can find both
libertarian-leaning objections to "vouchers", such as


"If the government underwrites private schools financially, it has a
right and a responsibility to ensure that the funds are being spent for
sound educational services. Greater government scrutiny of private
education will be necessary. Vouchers open the door to extensive state
regulation of private schools . . ."

and statist objections, such as


"The driving forces behind vouchers are not parents, but sectarian
school lobbies and political fringe groups such as the Libertarian
Party."

The general feeling is of a liberal (in the American sense of the word)
group with secular roots, whose principal concern is about religious
tolerance.

A libertarian purpose for a less statist 1999 would be to help such
persons to understand that the fight for preserving tolerance would be
ineffective given that the overseer--the State--is the real enemy of
tolerance.

To discuss these issues with Americans United, The Laissez Faire City
Times interviewed AU's Assistant Director of Communications, Rob Boston
.



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What are the real dangers for the First Amendment in the US now?

Last year Religious Right groups attempted to amend the U.S.
Constitution by adding a so-called "Religious Freedom Amendment" that
would have removed the principle of separation of church and state. This
effort was not successful. We expect to see another attempt in 1999,
although this one too will probably fail.

What are your positions about school vouchers and generally the school
system?

Americans United strongly opposes private school vouchers. We believe
that religious schools should be supported by the faiths that own and
operate them. Forcing the taxpayer at large to support religious schools
is in effect taxing them to pay for religion. Church taxes are
unacceptable to most Americans. Plus, religious schools are not required
to educate all children, as public schools are. As long as they can
discriminate in admissions, they should get no public support. Finally,
we believe that extending taxpayer aid to religious schools will lead to
eventual government regulation of those schools (in America, the
government always regulates what it subsidizes), leading private schools
to lose their independence.

But the Religious Right isn't the only sponsor of vouchers. How do You
explain the support to this campaign from non-Christian people like the
Nobel- Prize winner Milton Friedman?

Secular conservatives [Mingardi's note: to call Milton Friedman a
"conservative" is something like calling John Kenneth Galbraith a
revolutionary] like Friedman pioneered the voucher concept. Religious
Right activists actually came to the idea late. Many of them opposed
vouchers for a long time (and some still do) fearing that taking
government aid would open them up to extensive regulations from the
state.

What does the Religious Right in your opinion represent for the whole
Right and the GOP in the US?

The Religious Right is attempting to take over the Republican Party.
They want the power to cleanse the party of all moderates and
individuals who favor positions like legal abortion and gay rights.
Their views are extreme and intolerant and represent a threat to the
freedoms of all Americans. Religious Right activists believe that only
their religious view--fundamentalist Christianity--is correct and
therefore it should receive support from the government. This runs
counter to the tradition of religious liberty that was part of the
reason for the founding of the United States. We were designed to be a
nation that welcomes all religious faiths, not a country with an
established church or where members of certain faiths receive more
rights than others.

Some people (including a lot of libertarians, and including the
interviewer) say that the reasons to separate State and Church are the
same as those for separating School and State. Do you have any comment
on this?

We have no objection to people sending their children to private
religious schools. In fact, we believe they have a constitutional right
to do so. However, they do not have the right to expect others to pay
for it. As long as there is a public school system in the United States,
we believe it should be free from denominational control and taxpayer
supported. Private religious schools will have to find their own means
of support.

We've spoken about two things: State and Church. Please define what the
'State' means for AU supporters, and what they want for the US: a return
to all the Bill of Rights, or only a better application of the First
Amendment?

"State" for our members equals any unit of government--local, state or
federal. We believe government at all levels must refrain from
endorsing, supporting or entangling itself with religion. As for what
our members want, it's simple: To maintain the separation of church and
state that has served our country so well. We are determined to protect
this important principle from unprincipled attacks by the Religious
Right and others.

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from The Laissez Faire City Times, Vol 2, No 44, December 28, 1998
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