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YnrChyldzWyld wrote:
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> On Sun, 10 Jan 1999, Jim Norman wrote:
> >--and the north treated them with respect? The South had farms The North had
> >Manufacturing.
>
> And professional positions not open to them in the south...
----What professional positions? There were lots of positions not available to lots of
people. You make it sound like "if you were white you got the big professional job
with the big bucks." and if you were black, you got nothing. This is bunk. You'll
have to come up with something better than this. I don't even think you believe this.
>
>
> >It may help to remember that the North, after winning the Civil
> >war did not free their slaves as they forced the South to. And Lincoln had no
> >intentions of freeing the slaves until he needed an issue to keep France and Spain
> >out of the war. You remember that part don't you?
>
> I know very well that Lincoln was not 'The Great Emancipator' that
> history has made him out to be...and I also know that the Emancipation
> Proclamation was made to keep ENGLAND from entering the war on the side
> of the Confederacy, NOT France and Spain...France and Spain had no overt
> interest in the war, while England was extremely dependent on the cotton
> imported from the American South...
>
> ---Well now, we have a start...
> >> 1. I don't know why you say black men were not able bodied;
>
> _I_ didn't...YOU seemed to imply it in your statement...
>
----nope, I have nothing but respect for the folks I grew up with.
>
> You also didn't answer my question regarding how many blacks got
> positions of importance in the factories and offices, positions vacated
> by able-bodied white men who were off to war...
>
---I don't know. That was not my job. I do know that there were many free black men
who owned large successful farms who would not give two jerks for a 'position of
importance'.
>
> >> 2. None of the folks (including whites) who lived in Claxton were capable of
> >> supervising or managing a factory;and
>
> So the only thing you can state with any authority is what you observed
> as a very young child who was a member of a race which had more
> privileges than those of the black race, processed thru a child's
> perspective, and limited to a very specific (and not normal) era,
> and a small geographical area which was not necessarily indicative of the
> South as a whole...
>
> ---Now we're making progress. The things I state with any authority is what I
> observed , first hand over a period of 14 years total, as a very yound child (who
> worked 10 hours a day and had no childhood) thru puberty as a member of the white
> race... and limited to a very specific era and a small geographical area which was
> indicative of simular area's all over this country. There was area's of racial
> violence, in some parts of the country, but it was not the normal. Lots of kid's,
> like me, were raised in this fashion. Having a 'position of authority' was not
> important to any of us. Having a good rifle to shoot squirrels with and a good sharp
> knife were higher priority. My uncle would not go the the outhouse without a sharp
> knife. Winning the turkey shoot at Thanksgiving and having brag'gin rights til the
> next shoot was more important. Survival was big too.
Thank you for your considerate language and attitude.
My purpose for providing my background as my bonifide's in this debate is not to change
you or your convictions. It is to demonstrate that there are two truths. The truths
we believe because we were taught, or through propaganda by the media; and then the
real world truths. The truth we live that shapes our character. The very same that
exist in the polls that Clinton is so fond of quoting. While the polls say Clinton
hung the moon, I personally can not find any one who believes that. And by the way, do
you know why Clinton did not inhale?
>
> June
>
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