From: Tim Carmain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> R. Guemenee wrote: > > Perhaps I should rephrase it as families who would be >identified by those on this list as bloodline >descendants of Christ. I did not mean to imply that >the United Nations, European Parliament, or any other >international or governmental organization >_recognizes_ Grail families. Nor do they recognize the "Ecumenical Orthodox Jacobite Patriarchate of Antioch". It's clear that you're quoting directly from their book "Upward Nobility! - How to Make It Into the Royal and Noble Ranks". The EOJPA is nothing more than a scam operation, peddling fraudulent titles of nobility and faux chivalric orders. It has no connection to the legitimate Jacobite Church, otherwise better known as the Syrian Orthodox Church, and they engage in no "ecumenical" pursuits whatsoever. The patriarch is a Frenchman living in Rotterdam, whose homosexual lover, the "Duke of Campobello"(aka the Cuban emigre Antonio Boada), is the front man for an ingenious web of title peddlers. Some of the individuals who the Patriarchate maintains "excellent" relations with are: - His Majesty King William of Alabona and Ostrogojsk, aka Bill Mazser, an auto upholsterer in New Jersey who just happened to be the heir to a fabulous Crusader kingdom that no-one but the Patriarchate has ever heard of; - His Serene Highness Prince Douglas de St. Michel de Clermont, a medal caster in Vancouver who had his long-lost principality "rehabilitated" through the good offices of the Patriarchate, even though there is no record of this feudal state ever having existed; - His Royal Highness Dom Rosario, Duke of Braganca, son of the late Infanta of Portugal, who unfortunately was born and died on the same day in 1887; - the late Prince Alexis of Anjou-Durazzo-Dolgorouky-Romanov de Bourbon-Conde, aka Alex Brimeyer, native of the Belgian Congo who just happened to be the grandson of Grand Duchess Tatiana of Russia (slaughtered in 1918) and son of the long-lost Anjou heir to the Sicilian throne; - too many "de jure" Byzantine Emperors to list here; - highly unlikely Visigothic and Aztec claimants from Spain; - and one ludicrous Belgian-turned-Scotsman with a flair for falsifying genealogical records. I could go on ad nauseam, but suffice it to say that "birds of a feather flock together". As to their association with the Dragon Order, yes - the EOJPA does maintain "cordial" relations with the order, or so they claim. I usually like to get the other side of the story before I draw conclusions. However, there is more than one group calling itself the Dragon Order. I don't know whether either of them claims to be the "revived" order founded by Holy Roman Emperor Sigismund of Luxemburg in 1387. In either case, it would be a fallacy, as the order went defunct in the 1440s. Pommarede > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription > to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and > select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left.
