-Caveat Lector-

They are demon manifestations, who work lying wonders as spoke of in
Revelation.

e.g.: And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from
heaven on the earth in the sight of men, And deceiveth them that dwell on
the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the
sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should
make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
Rev 13:13-14
And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the
dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false
prophet. 016:014 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which
go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them
to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
Rev 16:13-14


Jeff Hearon




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> Subject:      Re: [CTRL] fw: 10 Facts in Respect to Alien Abductions:
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> My comments interspersed below.
> Teo1000
>
>
>
> In a message dated 1/24/99 7:37:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
>
> << Karla Turner's 10 Facts in Respect to Alien Abductions:
>
>  1) We don't know with any certainty  exactly what these entities may be;
>  they may be extraterrestrial, inter-dimensional, earthly or some
> combination
>  of the above.
> ((Teo1000 comments:  I would say that most evidence points to earthly or
> natural sources for the phenomenon, but do not discount the others
> presented
> here as well.)
>
>  2) At least some of the aliens lie. [Predictions, warnings, promises, and
>  contradictions.]
> ((Teo1000:  This is where the psy-op and disinformation is it's thickest.
> There is no evidence that we are dealing with intelligences from the
> stars,
> and as is rightly pointed out they give us no superior knowledge or future
> revelations.  This is just mind control plain and simple.  You may want to
> contend that it is alien intelligences doing the mind control, but I would
> dispute that point.))
>
>  3)  During encounters, the human's perceptions are controlled as are the
>  conscious memories of the encounters.
> ((Teo1000:  Absolutely agree.  But who is controlling and what is the
> desired
> effect of the control.  If it is to hide their existence it is a miserable
> failure, so that can be ruled out.  If it is to cause societal change or
> effect mass consciousness, that is working perfectly.  Mass psy-op to
> prepare
> the people for some revelation, that in MO has nothing to do with aliens
> from
> space.))
>
>  4) False memories can overlay and disguise the actual events of an
>  encounter.
> ((Teo1000:  True, again though, with what purpose and goal.))
>
>  5) Abductees report alien controlled information to the  research
>  community.  While reporting their experiences honestly and sincerely,
>  abductees are really reporting alien-controlled data.
> ((Teo1000:  There are too many controlled people in the movement and that
> is
> why it is doomed for useful information.))
>
>  6)  There is a serious element of human involvement in the abduction
>  phenomenon, in addition to the very real alien participation.  Many
>  abductees are monitored and harassed by human agents of some sort and the
>  cases involving phone and mail interference, helicopter surveillance are
>  only part of the story.
> ((Teo1000:  Human involvement, absolutely.  I have a problem with "very
> real
> alien participation".  Psy-op and cover for illegal human experimentation
> with
> mind control devices and classes of "less than lethal" weapons, in real
> world
> situations, is the more probable solution.  Aliens are the bugaboo for
> illegal
> governmental experimentation.  There may be aliens but I've seen no good
> proof
> yet.))
>
>  7)  The abduction agenda involves quite physical aims and procedures that
>  belie the idea of a primary spiritual motivation on the aliens part, as
> well
>  as refuting the notion that all they're doing in their agenda is
>  crossbreeding. There are physical procedures and aims that have nothing
> to
>  do with reproduction.  These include:
>
>    various types of implants in parts of the body;
>    insertion of wires and tubes into the chest, kidneys wrist and knees;
>    brain operations, deliberate pain experiments (ouch!);
>    abductees immersed in water, forced ingestion eating or drinking of
>      unknown fluids, cloning of humans et.al.
> ((Teo1000:  This supports the notion of illegal experimentation.  They
> need
> tissue samples and the like to effectively gauge the tested devices on the
> human body, no mystery here.  The spiritual angle in this scenario is also
> a
> cover for much more
> mundane and sinister designs.))
>
>  8) The agenda involves long-term mental and psychological programming of
> the
>  abductee, it targets among other concepts: our social and personal
>  relationships, our sexuality, our political ideas, and our religious and
>  spiritual concerns.  These are targets of programming that begin in
> almost
>  every instance, with the abductee in early childhood.
> ((Teo1000:  All can be explained by implants or remote mind control
> methodologies.  They are designed to influence and catalogue behavior, and
> would touch on all of these areas of our lives.  No aliens needed.  I have
> always wondered why would aliens care one whit about us, especially our
> beliefs, sexuality and political ideas?  Makes no sense to me.))
>
>  9) Aliens through technology create virtual reality scenarios that are
>  absolutely real to the perceptions of the targeted person.  All five
> senses
>  are involved.
> ((Teo1000:  Virtual reality is used, but again, there is no need for alien
> involvement here.))
>
>  10) The aliens show an extraordinary interest in human souls and in using
>  those souls.  [Soul recycling centers, black boxes, etc.]
>   >>
> ((Teo1000:  No objective truth of this statement, just hearsay of those
> involved in the phenomenon.))
>
> Mind you I'm ready and willing to revise my opinion on alien life and
> intervention on earth, just show me some evidence and I will be happy to
> do
> so.  Until then it is just Uncle Sam and his black budget minions behind
> the
> curtain manipulating his advanced toys and throwing our attention to the
> stars
> for the answers that are right here on nasty old earth.
> Teo1000
>
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