-Caveat Lector-
In a message dated 1/26/99 9:44:38 AM Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >
> > In a message dated 1/25/99 12:03:57 PM Mountain Standard Time,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >
> > >
> > > > The enviros
> > >
> > > A blanket term used to discredit. What are you up to here?
> > >
> > One would assume from your post that your only hang up with
> > logging 8000 trees is the fact that I refered to the movement in the
> generic
> > sense..the enviros.
> Assume all you want. No, I did not give you the pleasure of reacting to a
> piece of doo doo. I didn't deem the post worth any more of my time. It
WAS
> worth it to me, however, to point out the obvious attempt to discredit that
> was to be found only a little into the piece.
What you refer to as a piece of doo doo was a news article about Bruce
Babbitt
and other so called mainstream enviros advancing plans that call for the
cutting
down 8000 trees.
No matter what anybody says or does, it is Bruce Babbitt and people within
the enviro movement that want to log this batch of trees. Where is the
public
outcry, commentary from inside the "movement?" Likely it won't happen.
>
> > I predict that there will be no outrage, no outcry
> > from the enviros in general..
> This HAS been an issue in the environmental community.
It won't get the outrage/outcry that would have been had if it was a
logging company who had proposed to cut 8000 trees.
Are the people within the enviro movement going to file
lawsuits against the Dept of Interior, Bruce Babbitt, and the various
enviro groups and organizations that are involved as they would have done
if a logging company had wanted to do the same thing? Has anybody in
the enviro movement sought a court injunction to stop the plan until an
EIS (which would take years) was done? I hope I am wrong, but the
likely answer to those questions is a big fat NO, and it is not likely to
happen
in the future. Why? Because it is people within the enviro movement
supporting
the cutting of trees.
>
> >.because their leaders are the ones doing it.
> We don't have leaders.
While you may not have any, most of the others dance to the drums of either
the Sierra Club, and other so called mainstream groups. Yet others dance to
the
drums of the more militant groups like Earth First and others.
>
> > I find it interesting that leaders/followers in the enviros proclaim
> > logging
> > to be
> > evil UNTIL it suits their purposes and their leaders advance the
> plan...then
> > its OK.
> > They have discredited themselves yet AGAIN.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Robert
>
> Lame. I have given you too much attention already. Good bye. <smile>
>
I noticed how you dodged the issue when confronted with the fact that it is
enviros and Bruce Babbitt who want to cut down trees.
The article merely demonstrates how two faced those people are.
Had this been a logging company that made the proposal, the screaming
would have gone on, and on, and on, and on. People would have been
filing lawsuits and climbing the trees in grand canyon in protest.
As I have observed this is an example of when some people
in/around/connected
to the environmental movement consider it "expiedent" to log trees by the
100s or thousands, then its OK. But if a logging company wanted to do the
same exact
thing, they would be instantly denouced as evil, lawsuits would be filed, and
on
and on.
Since you claim to be concerned about tree issues,and such, you also
apparently have no "leader" to worry about, nor are you a follower of any of
the major groups involved , I would expect that you will probably be the
first one of many lawsuits to be filed against the plan.
Cheers,
Robert
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