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Do you not see your own contradiction here?
Here let me make it explicit:
> Morality is the basis of community.
And
> New Age morality is based on the idea of what is good for the community
> rather than on respect for the individual
My community is somewhat larger than yours I guess - it is not limited by
ethnicity or creed. It is not the community of secular Judaism, nor the
community of Judaism. It is the community of humanity.
My response to another is not based on a " need to know what they believe
in" - my response is based on what I believe in REGARDLESS of their beliefs.
While I don't think it is particularly healthy for the species for either
fundamentalist Judaism or Christianity to continue, I will fight to the
death the right of individuals to HOLD those beliefs. Your mind is your own.
As I understand what it means to be a good Jew is to repair the shattered
unity of the universe, or in less esoteric terms, to behave in a manner that
increases the overall good and weal of the universe and the individuals in
it.
Behavior not belief defines a good Jew. It also defines a good human being.
As to depending on the morality of others - well that will always fall short
on depending on the morality of one's self.
The key question is how to balance the need for the good of the community
against the need to enhance the freedom of the individual. It is a difficult
line to walk, especially because it is shifting constantly. Not only
constantly, but at an ever increasing rate. That is why we cannot rely
solely on some 5000 year old book and 10000 year old metaphors to define
what is or is not moral.
on 01/05/03 1:29 PM, Zuukie at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> You state the inability to separate Jews from religious Judaism will
> kill us off. You say that morality comes from within. Then if morality
> comes from within, one cannot depend on what the morality of any
> individual is. This is the basis of anti-Semitism, where the morality
> of Jews is categorized as evil. The theory is the predominant idea.
> What Thew's view of morality are is just a blip. What antisemites say
> is the morality of 99.9% of the Jews is will hold in the face of what
> you say your personal morality is. In opposition I say that the Jews
> hold to the morality of Judaism and that you are outside of the
> definition of the morality of the community. I see no written idea of
> what you think is the morality of the secular Jewish community.
> Morality is the basis of community. When we look to our fellow man, we
> need to know what they believe in for our response. Granted that not
> everyone who professes to a morality follows it.
>
> New Age morality is based on the idea of what is good for the community
> rather than on respect for the individual. Jews were killed off during
> the Holocaust because of what the Nazis believed was the good of the
> larger community. The entire abortion, euthanasia, ecology, individual
> rights arguments are based on whose interests are more important, the
> individual or the community. You need to show how you think the
> morality of the community you espouse will help the individual who
> disagrees with what you believe. Can you show how your idea of
> community morality will allow fundamentalist Judaism and Christianity to
> continue and still allow for community morality? I can't see how it
> will be done under New Age thinking where that which causes separation
> is considered evil.
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