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MJ
Sorry for placing you in a box. I'm glad that you are appreciative of the
need for government. As a strict Constitutionalist (I'm making an
assumption that you consider yourself as one...), you favor a small
government, I presume. At least, one that does not abrogate to itself any
rights that are not delegated to it. That is an attractive idea... and I
won't belabor this point..but I think that you must take into
consideration the changed nature of American social, economic, political,
cultural realities... We (as a nation) have moved from being thirteen
states to a global empire (superpower) of today. Since I assume that you
are a student of history, I think a comparison with Greece and Rome is in
order...... Clearly, we are in the "empire" phase, wouldn't you agree?
Whether you or I like this...is somewhat irrelevant. If we could turn
back the clock to the eighteenth century....or perhaps, the early
nineteenth century....we would find the US of A being quite different in
terms of its demographics, degree of industrialization, extent of
commercial development.. The need for laws, social cooperation, social
cohesiveness was minimal....wouldn't you agree? But now look at the
country! It is a very very different place, isn't it? We have gone the
way of empire....westward expansion...seizing more land, placing more
individuals under the power of our government. Do I approve? Well, what
is the typical fate of empires? But, on the other hand, if we had not
expanded, there are arguments to be made that we would still be under
British rule. At least, so goes the argument for the westward expansion..
And if we are to speak in terms of property and liberty....of course, our
national government legally (via a series of treaties) seized enormous
chunks of territory in order to expand.... So, expansion is very much
part of the American temperament.. We went through a period in our
national history when we wanted our "lebensraum".... But as we expanded
and became a global empire, new realities have come into play. Hence the
government must deal with problems the original government never faced..
On Fri, 18 Dec 1998, M. A. Johnson wrote:
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> Mr. Tunstall,
>
> With all due respect ... I think you have me confused with
> a Republican -- who in general are merely a little to the
> 'right' of the Democrats who are 'well to the left'. *I*
> am just to the left of Anarchy realizing that government
> is needed to avoid endless gang warfare -- prefering a
> simple standard found within the Document that dissolved
> the government bonds within this country and formed the
> philosophy by which our Constitution was drafted.
>
> If you would like to posit a response to my post rather than
> putting me in a box which is more easily dismissed -- at least
> by association, I am all ears.
>
> Regard$,
> Michael
>
>
> What's *just* has been debated for centuries but let me offer
> you my definition of social justice: I keep what I earn and you
> keep what you earn. Do you disagree? Well then tell me how much
> of what I earn *belongs* to you -- and why? --Walter Williams
>
>
> William Hugh Tunstall wrote:
> >
> > -Caveat Lector-
> >
> > MJ-
> >
> > I guess you're not up on your Clinton trivia. The Republican Party's
> > campaign to subvert two national elections began eight years ago...
> > Starting with Larry Nichols/Rush Limbaugh...and other honchos in the
> > Republican party who used talk radio to do character assassinations of
> > President Clinton... Usually, these dirty tricks campaign involved
> > drumming up one phony allegation after another and serving it up for the
> > ditto heads..... Clinton had Vince Foster murdered; Clinton operated a
> > satanic kiddie porno ring at the Governor's School in Little Rock; Clinton
> > ran drugs out of Mena, Arkansas;... one allegation after another...
> >
> > Your brethren on the far right decided that they could bring him down by
> > destroying his character..... and of course, it didn't work very well,
> > MJ. He was reelected....and to the horror of your compatriots, the public
> > really weren't interested in what the far right was serving up. That is
> > why Newt was asked to step down......
>
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