-Caveat Lector- On Saturday, 26 July 2003 4:03 PM -0700, William Shannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> -Caveat Lector- > > In a message dated 7/26/2003 5:53:06 PM Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Is Holocaust revisionism anything but Holocaust denial? > > I think it is. Is what? Substantially different in any way? > << I hardly > see any revisionist/denier claiming that the Holocaust never happened, > just that it was hyped. >> > > Wasn't it? You'll need better sources to prove that than those who simply hate Jewish people to make your case. > <<La Raza's claim of the "Kosher Nostra scam" is a complete > fabrication.>> > > Oh? How so? This has already been explained in earlier posts. In any event, here's another post from a different list outlining why: http://www.freedomsite.org/pipermail/fs_discussion/2002-April/002085.html Of course, this is from the ADL, so you have to keep that in mind. But this also is in the same sense that the "Kosher Nostra scam" idea is being promoted by the most virulent racist groups and people. La Raza provides no proof for their claims - it is ALL conjecture. Also, although I don't necessarily believe Snopes on everything, their analysis of this is pretty spot-on: http://www.snopes.com/racial/business/kosher.htm Their most salient point: >Does certification add to the price of a product? Certainly, but the amount is miniscule, especially compared to the advertising, packaging, shipping, research, testing, admin and finance-related costs, and a myriad of other components that contribute to the process of bringing a product to market or making it better appeal to consumers. One might as well rail against the costs associated with selecting the ink colors and style of lettering used on a package - it's all legitimate business expense, even though no one ever rails against the "Secret Red Ink Conspiracy" or rants about the "Helvetica Font Tax."< As I said, there certainly are problems with the way that Israel operates. But this sort of propaganda is based on nothing but fear and hatred of Jewish people, and it smacks of the worst sort of racist smearing. I am seeing this more and more often with people who object to Israel's actions, who somehow find themselves believing all sorts of nonsense which is pushed by those who aren't so much concerned about the actual political problems, but who just plain hate Jewish people. It's a nasty trap, and what it ultimately does is to put people who have legitimate complaints about Israel into a position where it is accurate to describe what they promote as anti-Semitic - yes, sometimes anti-Semitism really exists, although I realize it has become a loaded phrase. IOW, it allows those who would defend Israel at any cost or for any reason to make an easy case against those who object to its actions, to disbelieve any other arguments coming from that person as discredited, considering the source. - jt www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ======================================================================== Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ <A HREF="http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl</A> ======================================================================== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
