Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 1:29
PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Occult Symbolism: As
American as Baseball
The fact is America had TWO major influences in it's
founding, Christianity and the Occult.
But who was
prominent in writing the laws which guaranteed freedom for all.
The Christian
sects, whilst many were fleeing persecution, none-the-less came with
the baggage of autocratic Catholic Europe.
Their ideas
of a Christian Social Order were affected by their Catholic heritage;
however hard they tried to diss it.
These Protestant
Christian refugees were a scattered coterie whose ideas varied widely and
were in the primitive formulative stages.
The Deists on the
other hand, had a well thought-out Social agenda.
Their innate
humanism, their suspicion of despots, autocratic monarchs and popes, forged
a set of values to ensure that liberty for all citizenry would be
a prime objective.
No
one would say their endeavours were perfect or executed without problems
and even a measure of hypocrisy. Yet their aims
were noble and their course led to progressive societal
liberties.
If Christians had
been a well organised hierarchic group, they would have swayed the
early politics of the US and without doubt would have transplanted a
similar spirit to that of Catholic Europe into the new
world.
Their lack of a
cohesive body, their fear of religious persecution, as experienced in
Catholic Europe, and their dictum of individual freedom; "the
Liberty of the Gospel," were more of an influence toward social
liberties than if they were a large cohesive dominant group, who
probably would have replicated a system not unlike the one they had
fled, if for no other reason than that they new no other
system.
I cite for
example, the history of the converted Protestant John Calvin, who after
gaining autonomy from Catholicism and gaining political power for his
sect, mimicked his former indoctrination in the Catholic Social Order; and
continued to burn those he considered heretics.
The same would
have occurred in America were it not for prominent men, fashioned by the
Enlightenment, who sought political restraint and tolerance for and by
all religions.
The only reason the American Revolution succeeded and the French
Revolution was a total utter bloody murderous failure was that the French
Revolution was not tempered by Christianity.
I can agree to a
limited extant; as per comments above.
The reason the
French Revolution was so bloody; was because of the 1,000 year rule of
clericalism and the vast hatred promulgated by clerics against the
Enlightenment.
Anything which
was dubbed heresy or anti-clericalism, was stigmatised as the work of
the devil. It was a world of fear and hate, of witches and werewolves; a
demon haunted world, ruled by the clerics, who promoted any type of base
superstition to keep the gullible in a state of soul and psyche-paralysis.
The
ecclesiastical harp-pluckers likewise held sway over education. The men
who had arisen, and would take the reigns of the Revolution, were the
same men who the monks had endowed with their potent superstition and
world-denying hatreds.
The
revolutionaries turned on the clerics; and the type of despotic society
these superstitious world-denying holy men had constructed for over a
millennia. Indeed, it is a by-word that France was the papacies oldest and
most treasured daughter.
Whilst the men who carried out the bloodiest aspects
of the Revolution must bear responsibility for their own actions,
having men kept in societal dog-cages, in spiritual chains, and with clerics
as their masters; was sure to make men erupt. Mad dogs aren't naturally
born, they are generally
made.
Rousseau himself asserted in The Social Contract,
circa 1762 that, ‘‘man was born free, but he is everywhere in
chains". As these men sought emancipation from tyrants and despotic
clerics; and whilst one cannot condone their bloodiest actions; one
can to some extent empathise with their
rage.
The Christian influence won America Liberty, whereas the Occult won
France License.
I believe
otherwise, as per comments above. This "Christian influence," was minor,
likewise there was no organised powerful "Occult influence" in France
either.
The men of the
Enlightenment were secularists, humanists and deists in search of freedom
and knowledge, which was hitherto forbidden them by clericalism.
It was the
minimal influence of Christians in America
that assisted those that had a more powerful sense of individual
liberty; they were mostly Secularists and Deists who prevented an
American blood-bath.
The early Protestant sects, fleeing Catholic
persecution, were not a hierarchal politicly organised body. Their own
fears of religious persecution, which they experienced under European
potentates and popes; looked for an America zone-free of king and
pope.
The idea of some
endemic 'occult conspiracy' is pure fantasy. It originated in the lunatic
mind of brainwashed, superstitious clergymen who see themselves
harassed by evil angels, spirits, ghosts and devils at every
turn.
And over two hundred years later America has lost it's Liberty to
License, a direct result of the Occult conspiracy.
Not plausible-(cf
above). Today, almost all Americans say they believe in the Christian god.
The mores of America are Christian and it is the paramount and
dominant religion of America.
Since the rise
and rise of Christian-ism, and particularly
the massive growth of Catholicism (a good portion of illegal US
border-jumpers are Catholic invaders), and her Jesuit
political academia; Bill Clinton for example, was an agent of the
Jesuit Georgetown University; -- America has become, more paranoid
and progressively more warlike whilst the alleged Christian moral
majority has increased.
Statist, Fundamentalist Christianity, like any
Fundamentalist religion, by its very paranoid nature; its world-hating and
human-denying theologies; invariably breeds hate and war wherever it takes
root.
The Catholic/Jesuit church is one side of the coin and Freemasonry is the
other side, and that coin's name is Mystery, Babylon and these supposed
enemies of one another have the exact same roots. And both are the enemy
of true Liberty.
Rampant,
monolithic Catholicism is hardly the flip side of a bunch of a bunch of
old fogies burning about in wheelchairs looking for a charity to
support.
The Masons are
pretty much a non-event any longer. Their ranks have been diminishing for
decades, whilst various religious superstitions have skyrocketed, which in
itself may be telling.
On parts of the
Euro continent, given their symbols and emblems, one could mistake some
Masonic Orders for the temples of the Jesuits.
The recent
conflagrations in Europe have only served the pope and the
Vatican, whose former fiefdoms have progressively been
revived.
The European
Union, whilst oft in the guise of secularist ambitions, seeks the
revival of a Europe under the religious tutelage of the pope and
Vatican.
One of the big
wigs of NATO and the EU is Javier Solana Madariaga, a Roman Catholic
Spaniard who bears the name of one of the founding members of the Jesuit
Society.
During the
Yugoslav War he was conveniently the leader (Head) of NATO. In one of
Solana's speeches he claimed the EU is, "... the Union that represents
the re-unification of Europe."
But when was Europe ever 'unified'
in such terms except when Roman Catholic and under the heel of Catholic
potentates and popes.
Solana's words are clearly an echo of the
words and ideals of the man he gives allegiance to:
"A united
Europe is no longer a dream. It is not utopian memory from the Middle
Ages. The events that we are witnessing show that this goal can be
reached".
The above words are the words of the pope.
Solana, is the pope's man who follows after the pope's behest. The
pope wants to revive the Holy Roman Empire of the Middle (Dark) Ages, this
age incorporated the Inquisition, and the pope asserts that this
era was a utopia! (cf NEW YORK TIMES, APRIL 23,
1990).
Catholic
Hitler too wanted a united Europe under the Reich, which means
Empire.
Hitler
was taught by clerics and monks and died a loyal son of Rome and a sycophant
of the pope. He has never even been excommunicated.
Dave.
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