[CTRL] Third try Replies to Sean

[Sean McBride]

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-Caveat Lector- Zuukie,   My honest response when I read your post below was, are you serious?   Your questions reveal that you haven't familiarized yourself with the basic documents and facts about this incident, which are all easily available on the web through Googling.   Learn the basic facts of the case, and then we can discuss it.  You're not even in the ballpark.   For some reason, one often sees posts like this from emotional supporters of Israel.  This style of communication has done as much as anything else to weaken support all around the world for Israel.   To give you one example: the legal defense for these Israeli spies HIMSELF admitted that the Israelis were celebrating the destruction of the WTC on 9/11.  Some of these celebratory activities. which included waving a lighter rock-concert-style, were captured on video, and the video was viewed by government investigators.  Why don't you know this?   Only one Israeli died in the WTC on 9/11 -- this is according to the New York Times.  George W. Bush, probably spouting words that were put into his mouth by one of his neocon puppetmasters, claimed that 130 Israelis died.  The Israeli mainstream press was worried that more than 4,000 Israelis could have been 911 victims.   Do your homework, and then comment.   ----- Original Message ----- From: Zuukie To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 10:40 AM Subject: [CTRL] Third try Replies to Sean -Caveat Lector-   Sean asked me the following questions.  My answers follow each question  -----Original Message----- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Sean McBride Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 2:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] 911 - The Israeli Connection (Neil Mackay) -Caveat Lector- This is an interesting Israeli spin on Urban Moving Systems that you serve up. A few questions: 1. Why did these Israelis, some of whom were Mossad operatives, celebrate the destruction of the WTC? We have the word of one woman looking thru binoculars into a parking lot .  2.  Why have the American media gone out of their way to censor this incident and brutally attacked any public figure, like Amiri Baraka, who even dares to mention it? This has been all over the net and the news.  Hardly censorship.  You definitely aren't the first to carry this story. 3. Isn't it true that Israel in the past has staged terrorist incidents against the United States, with the aim provoking American hostility towards Israel's Arab and Muslim adversaries? If you have information on this, please present it with credible sources.  I haven't heard of anything like this. 4. Why haven't we seen the video that was taken by these Israeli agents?  Wouldn't it be of enormous public interest? The woman said they seemed to be taking a movie, so how are we to know there was a movie taken.    There was a movie that surfaced only recently which was taken by people who were new to the US and who were going taking pictures of the skyline for their neighbors.  Were they also part of a terrorist ring because they had a camera out? 5.  Why did the owner of Urban Moving Systems rush back to Israel so quickly? I don't know what is going on behind the scenes with our own spy system much less what the Mossad might be doing.  Everybody is looking over everyone else's shoulder for a long time now. 6. Why was an Israeli spy ring operating in such close proximity to the hijackers in Florida before the attack? Probably because Israeli intelligence has to be watchful of everything going on based on how precarious the situation the Israelis find themselves in.   7. Why have the American media failed to pursue the story that advance warning of the attack was transmitted on the Israeli Internet company Odigo? It lacked credibility.   8. Why did only one Israeli die in the WTC on 9/11?  Why did George W. Bush claim that more than 100 Israelis were killed?  Why is it that whenever this subject comes up propagandists for Israel dishonestly and manipulatively substitute the word "Jews" for "Israelis"? Please cite your source for the first sentence.  The original story appeared in the Arab press.  Stories circulating around the net cited more credible sources for Arabs knowing what was to happen.  Stories circulating around the net cited more credible sources for our own government having information about what was to happen. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! 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