Re: [CTRL] Third try Replies to Sean

Wed, 05 Nov 2003 10:20:18 -0800

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Sean,
 
Why so formal (Mr. Rarey)? 
 
Perhaps my attack on Prudy's logic (or lack thereof) was ill advised in that particular context because it gave the impression I was defending the Israelis and denying their Mossad connections.
 
That is not the case. I have just had it with Prudy's rants, e.g. against Christianity in general without limiting it to those who have perverted the faith. I was pointing out a flaw in her ability to reason logically.
 
I accept as fact that the five were Mossad assets (spies). Same for the "art students." I also accept that Mossad is capable of assassinations within the U.S. if they have not already done so.
 
There is no reason to believe that Mossad is any more principled than our own CIA in that respect nor to think that Mossad is acting in the best interests of the Israeli population in general any more than the CIA is acting in the best interests of all Americans. Both organizations answer to supra-national powers with their own agenda. You seem to identify that power as primarily the Zionists. I believe the Zionists are only a part of a larger movement which includes the "neocons", the entire leadership of the CFR and its counterpart in the U.K. (the RIIA) as well as royalty in various countries and, of course, the powerful bankers and other financial elite.
 
You undoubtedly will say I have mischaracterized your assessment of Zionism, however you can't deny that your major emphasis has been there (to the exclusion of the CFR except for the neocon faction within that organization).
 
It may have been "nitpicking" but it was with a purpose not readily apparent to you.
 
Jim
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 3:51 AM
Subject: [CTRL] Third try Replies to Sean

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Mr. Rarey,
 
The Israeli spies hung themselves with their own video, which has been viewed by numerous government investigators.  We are not reliant on the testimony of a single woman in this case to know how the Israelis behaved.
 
What is there about Israel which is capable of dimming the minds of even highly intelligent people?  Look at what it has done to "geniuses" like Paul Wolfowitz and Richard Perle, who assured us that invading Iraq would be a cakewalk and that Iraqi oil would pay for the entire venture.  Instead, Americans are now paying hundreds of billions of dollars for the privilege of being trapped in a bottomless hellhole in the Mideast.  We are being RUINED by the brilliant advice of pro-Israel zealots.
 
It is highly revealing that the best you can come up with on this topic is the nitpicking post below.  Your instinct whenever the subject of Israel comes up is to attack critics of Israel, usually in a way that is embarrassing to yourself and which undercuts your reputation for being a fearless conspiracy investigator.  Michael Ruppert fell into the same trap, although he has shown some efforts recently to correct the problem.
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Rarey
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Third try Replies to Sean

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Prudy,
 
I don't follow your reasoning if that's what it is. You say no (we don't have the word of just one woman?)  we have the written words of the police officers who answered her call.
 
Because the officers wrote down what the woman told them, do we now have more than one witness? Why not have ten officers report what the woman said and then will we  have 11 witnesses?
 
Not very clear thinking, Prudy.
 
JR
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Prudy L
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Third try Replies to Sean

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In a message dated 11/4/2003 10:39:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
1. Why did these Israelis, some of whom were Mossad operatives, celebrate the destruction of the WTC?

We have the word of one woman looking thru binoculars into a parking lot
No we have the written words of the police officers who answered her call.  These answers are not very good Zuukie.  Prudy
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