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http://www.tampatrib.com/News/MGAOI3BMAUD.html
CIA, Military Keep Off-Limits Jails Throughout World
By DANA PRIEST and JOE STEPHENS The Washington Post
Published: May 16, 2004

In Afghanistan, the CIA's secret U.S. interrogation center in Kabul is known
as ``The Pit,'' named for its despairing conditions.
In Iraq, the most important prisoners are kept in a huge hangar near the
runway at Baghdad International Airport, say U.S. government officials,
counterterrorism experts and others.

In Qatar, U.S. forces have ferried some Iraqi prisoners to a remote jail on
the gigantic U.S. air base in the desert.

The Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq, where a unit of U.S. soldiers abused
prisoners, is just the largest and suddenly most notorious in a worldwide
constellation of detention centers - many of them secret and all off-limits
to public scrutiny - that the U.S. military and CIA have operated in the
name of counterterrorism or counterinsurgency operations since the Sept. 11
attacks.

These prisons and jails are sometimes as small as shipping containers and as
large as the sprawling Guantanamo Bay complex in Cuba.

They are part of an elaborate CIA and military infrastructure whose purpose
is to hold suspected terrorists or insurgents for interrogation and
safekeeping while avoiding U.S. or international court systems, where
proceedings and evidence against the accused would be aired in public.

Some are held by foreign governments at the informal request of the United
States.

``The number of people who have been detained in the Arab world for the sake
of America is much more than in Guantanamo Bay. Really, thousands,'' said
Najeeb Nuaimi, a former justice minister of Qatar who is representing the
families of dozens of prisoners.

Three Separate Systems

The largely hidden array includes three systems that rarely overlap: the
Pentagon-run network of prisons, jails and holding facilities in Iraq,
Afghanistan, Guantanamo and elsewhere; small and secret CIA-run facilities
where top al- Qaida and other figures are kept; and interrogation rooms of
foreign intelligence services - some with documented records of torture - to
which the U.S. government delivers or ``renders'' mid- or low-level
terrorism suspects for questioning.

More than 9,000 people are held by U.S. authorities overseas, according to
Pentagon figures and estimates by intelligence experts, the vast majority
under military control.

The detainees have no conventional legal rights: no access to a lawyer; no
chance for an impartial hearing; and at least in the case of prisoners held
in cellblock 1A at Abu Ghraib, no apparent guarantee of humane treatment
accorded prisoners of war under the Geneva Conventions or civilians in U.S.
jails.

Although some of those held by the military in Iraq, Afghanistan and
Guantanamo have had visits by the International Committee of the Red Cross,
some of the CIA's detainees have, in effect, disappeared, according to
interviews with former and current national security officials and to the
Army's report of abuses at Abu Ghraib.

The CIA's ``ghost detainees,'' as they were called by members of the 800th
MP Brigade, were routinely held by the soldier-guards at Abu Ghraib
``without accounting for them, knowing their identities, or even the reason
for their detention,'' the report says.

These phantom captives were ``moved around within the facility to hide
them'' from Red Cross teams, a tactic that was ``deceptive, contrary to Army
doctrine, and in violation of international law.''

CIA employees are under investigation by the Justice Department and the CIA
inspector general's office in connection with the death of three captives in
the past six months. Two died while under interrogation in Iraq, and a third
was being questioned by a CIA contract interrogator in Afghanistan. A CIA
spokesman said the hiding of detainees was inappropriate. He wouldn't
comment further.

`A Long History'

None of the arrangements that permit U.S. personnel to kidnap, transport,
interrogate and hold foreigners are ad hoc or unauthorized, including the
so-called renderings.

``People tend to regard it as an extra-judicial kidnapping; it's not,''
former CIA officer Peter Probst said. ``There is a long history of this. It
has been done for decades. It's absolutely legal.''

In fact, every aspect of this new universe - including maintenance of covert
airlines to fly prisoners from place to place, interrogation rules and the
legal justification for holding foreigners without due process afforded most
U.S. citizens - has been developed by military or CIA lawyers, vetted by
Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel and, depending on the issue,
approved by White House General Counsel's Office or the president himself.

In some cases, such as determining whether a U.S. citizen should be
designated an enemy combatant who can be held without charges, the president
makes the final decision, said Alberto R. Gonzales, counsel to the
president.

Abu Ghraib prison - where photographs were taken that have enraged the Arab
world and rocked U.S. political and military leadership - held 6,000 to
7,000 detainees at the time of the documented abuse. Today, it and other
sites in Iraq hold more than 8,000 prisoners, U.S. and coalition officials
said. They range from those believed to have played key roles in the
insurgency to some held on suspicion of petty crimes.

Far better known has been the Defense Department's facility at Guantanamo
Bay. The open-air camps there house about 600 detainees, flown in from
around the world over the past two years. Secrecy there remains tight, with
detainees and most of the facilities off-limits to visitors.

Before the U.S. military was imprisoning and interrogating people in
Afghanistan and Iraq, the CIA was scooping up suspected al-Qaida leaders in
such far-off places as Pakistan, Yemen and Sudan. Today, the CIA probably
holds two to three dozen captives around the world, knowledgeable current
and former officials say.

Among them are al-Qaida leaders Khalid Sheik Mohammed and Ramzi Binalshibh
in Pakistan and Abu Zubaida. The CIA is also in charge of interrogating
Saddam Hussein, believed to be in Baghdad.






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