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Title: Fwd: Two steps forward, one step back -- Summer of Truth 9
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http://summeroftruth.org/

9/11 and The Search for Truth

 Manhattan Center Grand Ballroom | 8PM  | September 11 2004


 A research-oriented evidentiary forum and moderated panel discussion. Presentations and conversation with writers and filmakers who continue to raise disturbing questions about September 11, 2001


Among the Panelists, Filmmakers and Presenters:
        *       Dr. Robert Bowman
 USAF Colonel (ret.) and fmr. head of the  Institute for Space and Security Studies (U.S. Starwars program)
        *       David Ray Griffin (video testimony)
 Author of The  New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions About the Bush Administration and 9/11
        *       Michael Kane & SGTV (film)
 Chairperson, NY 9/11 Truth,  reporting from Ground Zero
        *       Jeff King
 Engineer, researcher into the tower collapses
        *       Peter Lance (press availability at 7:30)
 Former ABC reporter and investigative journalist, author
 of Cover-up:  What the Government Is Still Hiding about the War On Terror
        *       Jenna Orkin
World Trade Center Environmental  Organization
        *       Paul Thompson (panel & press availability at 7:30)
 Author of The Terror Timeline and of "The Complete 9/11 Timeline"  online at cooperativeresearch.org
        *       David von Kleist
 Filmmaker: In Plane Sight




Comments from Mark:



It was bad enough that Lynn Pentz got KPFK in Los Angeles to promote von Kleist -- but this event?

I'm amazed and shocked and disappointed.

It's not too late to uninvite Mr. Von Kleist, if summeroftruth / ny911truth / 911truth / et al would like to avoid a christian fundamentalist promoting disproven disinformation that distracts from the best evidence and discredits the rest of the movement by association.   So far, no one has rebutted any of the substantive material that shows that "Plane Site" is not a genuine effort --  http://www.oilempire.us/bogus.html

Several people have complained that I accused the film of being cointelpro (although none of those who were upset by this addressed the fact that much of the film is erroneous).  I've changed the prose to be more equivocal about this (although if it is not cointelpro, then it is one of the slickest pieces of incompetence ever made).   It's hard to believe that it is sheer coincidence that the same picture of a 757 on the cover of "planesite" is the exact same picture that Cristian Fleming (in New York) posted to the 9/11 Truth Alliance list in May to debunk the fake claim of "pod planes."  It seems to be yet another bad joke aimed at the 9/11 movement.

It would be interesting to know who decided that the ostensible maker of this fake film should grace the stage with his insightful commentaries about pods and missiles and similar stuff -- I hope it wasn't made democratically (because it is unlikely that there's a majority in favor of "planesite" in any truth group).  Those organizing the event can promise that he will stick to less controversial topics, but this is about as likely as inviting a Klansman to an event in Harlem with the promise that he'll only talk about water pollution problems in the Hudson river.  Why give Mr. Von Kleist undeserved legitimacy?  Why give Chip Berlet, FAIR, David Corn, et al this present for attacking the concepts behind 9/11 "truth?"   Two steps forward and one step back.

Oh well, Parade magazine's attack on 9/11 only reached a few tens of millions of people, and their main thesis is that 9/11 skeptics are not careful researchers isn't dispelled by having Mr Von Kleist on the stage.

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