-Caveat Lector- from alt.conspiracy ----- As always, Caveat Lector. Om K ----- <A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:517265">How Many Gunmen?</A> ----- Subject: How Many Gunmen? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian Goddard) Date: Sat, Apr 24, 1999 1:52 AM Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Police investigation of the Littleton massacre has expanded from two to three suspects, and the third appears to have implicated others: MSNBC: NBC: Third suspect says others aided gunmen: http://www.msnbc.com/news/261055.asp Even though others were arrested at the school, the day after the massacre the local Sheriff's Department said they believed that the two dead gunmen acted alone. While it's not clear if the third suspect is accused of killings at school, a diversity of details in early media reports and eyewitness accounts suggest that there may have been more than two assailants: =================================================== TWO MASKED GUNMEN IN BLACK COATS =================================================== Associated Press: Gunmen Open Fire in Colorado H.S By Robert Weller. Tuesday, 4/20/99; 3:56 p.m. EDT: "LITTLETON, Colo. (AP) -- Two masked young men dressed in long, black trench coats opened fire in a suburban high school..." =================================================== GUNMAN IN BLACK COAT, NO MASK, NOT A STUDENT =================================================== Kim Sander is a mother of a student who escaped. During the siege (4/20/99) at 1:10 central time, Kim was interviewed on KUSA-TV, carried by MSNBC. Kim described what her daughter had just told her about what her daughter had seen at the school: KIM SANDER: "She looked up and saw a gunman in a black trench coat with a very huge gun in front of him.... He had dark brown hair, thick bushy eyebrows and was very ugly. She said he was a white male." NEWS ANCHOR: "Kim, did your daughter say if the gunman that she saw was a student at the school?" KIM SANDER: "She didn't recognize him as a student. No. Not as a student." Dead gunmen: http://www.msnbc.com/news/261238.asp =================================================== THREE GUNMAN IN BLACK TRENCH COATS =================================================== Associated Press: 25 May Be Dead in School Shooting By Robert Weller. Tuesday, 4/20/99; 7:39 p.m. EDT: "LITTLETON, Colo. (AP) -- Three young men in fatigues and black trench coats opened fire at a suburban Denver high school Tuesday..." =================================================== BOMBER IN WHITE T-SHIRT =================================================== Associated Press: 25 May Be Dead in School Shooting. By Robert Weller. Tuesday, 4/20/99; 7:39 p.m. EDT: ``At first we thought it was fireworks, then we saw them shooting,'' said Jake Apoeaca, 16. ``He saw us and then he started shooting at us. Then a guy in a white T-shirt threw two hand grenades on the roof. ...'' 911 tapes of police radio dispatches release on 4/23/99 mention a suspect wearing a white T-shirt. =================================================== SUSPECT IN BLACK T-SHIRT =================================================== Photograph from The Washington Post (4/21/99) shows friend of gunmen arrested on the scene (perhaps the same young man mentioned and figured by a student as a gunmen in an Associated Press report): http://www.erols.com/igoddard/littltnC.jpg =================================================== SIMULTANEOUS ATTACKS UPSTAIRS & DOWNSTAIRS =================================================== Cathy Parks is a student who escaped before the siege ended. She was interviewed on MSNBC during the siege at 1:26 pm central time, April 20. Transcript from tape of MSNBC broadcast: REPORTER TO NEWS ANCHOR: "I'm going to put you on the phone now with Cathy Parks. She's a freshman at Columbine. She was in the library at the time the gunmen came in and started shooting." CATHY PARKS: "I was in the library and there were noises downstairs.... And then these two guys came up [ into the library ] and they were shooting randomly and there was bombing, I guess, downstairs and people screaming." Two gunmen were upstairs in the library while bombs were going off downstairs. When she says "I guess" it's clear in hearing that she refers to "bombing," meaning she assumes it was bombing. =================================================== 3 TCM GANG MEMBERS ARRESTED IN FIELD NEAR SCHOOL =================================================== Associated Press: 25 May Be Dead in School Shooting. By Robert Weller. Tuesday, 4/20/99; 7:39 p.m. EDT: "Three youths wearing black -- but not trench coats -- were stopped by police in a field near the school. The Colorado Bureau of Investigation said the three were friends of the gunmen who were being taken in for questioning. "Witnesses said the shootings took place around the school, including in the cafeteria and library." Arrest: http://www.erols.com/igoddard/littltnA.jpg I saw another arrest of a guy in a black trench coat on MSNBC, which I didn't tape, and that guy was not the three above, nor was it the one wearing a blalck T-shirt: http://www.erols.com/igoddard/littltnC.jpg So there were 5 other "associates" at or near the school that were arrested on that bloody day. =================================================== SHOTS FROM GUNMAN OUTSIDE WHO RAN INSIDE SCHOOL =================================================== >From police radio dispatch during the siege on 911 tapes played on MSNBC (4/23/99 around 3:40 CT): POLICE DISPATCH: "Attention all units, 71 is under fire. He said the suspect just ran inside the building.... 71 is still under fire in the south lawn." =================================================== SMOKE/BOMB(?) IN PARKING LOT =================================================== Student on scene talking to 911 emergency operator: STUDENT: "There's like smoke going off in the parking lot right now. There are loud noises. I'm not sure exactly. A cop is pulling up." http://msnbc.com/news/262264.asp =================================================== ONLY TWO DEAD SUSPECTED =================================================== On MSNBC (4/21/99) Sheriff Steve Parks was asked: REPORTER: "Do you think the two suspects were working alone?" PARKS: "We still believe that they were." =================================================== MORE SUSPECTS OFF-THE-RECORD =================================================== District Attorney for Littleton co, Mark Pautler, appeared on CNN's "Burden of Proof" (12:45 pm ET, 4/23/99) and was asked if any witnesses had said they'd seen more than two gunman, he answered: "I'm not at liberty to answer that question." 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